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tonight we have the pleasure to

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introduce our guest speaker of the

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evening mrs. mr. Benton Emlyn Jones Ben

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was born in Aberystwyth brought up in

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the Lampeter area before moving to

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Oxford where happens and about five

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years ago I think it was he said spent

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22 well-respected years employed as a

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hospital porter John Radcliffe Hospital

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which is in Oxford then became

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interested in UFOs and various other

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conspiracy theories in the late 1990s

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and he started his website blog which

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was hospital porters against the new

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world order in 2006 and it's thousands

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of visitors every day now we regularly

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attends and delivers talks and

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discussions all over Britain on a wide

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range of subjects and he's visited us

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before two previous occasions in our old

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venue where he spoke on the subjects of

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energy politics and UFOs and the history

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of Exopolitics now his talk this evening

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is intriguingly entitled anata no sure

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Roswell now he's brave the elements and

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travel the good distance today to be

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with us this evening so please give a

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warm sue phone welcome mr. Ben and enjoy

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thank you very much ladies and gentlemen

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it's great to be back no it wasn't

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actually too bad but it's made to be

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back and it's great to be in this new

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venue old fancy being in that marquee

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this evening but this is me well it's my

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web site hospital porters against the

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new world order now in its 11th year and

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it is for basically covers the UFO

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subject but also lots of other things

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government cover-ups ghosts

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cryptozoology paranormal chemtrails

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hidden history

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the ology things like that so it's an

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awful lot there and there's no new site

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which update every day our videos I've

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got better channel I do I do my own

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radio shows as well some point said busy

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now expect no click or something yeah

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okay it's all over you guys if I just

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took if I do my whole speech now it's

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about an hour and a quarter is that okay

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with everyone and then I do all take

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questions and past the break it is to be

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shorter this time that's all okay well

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today I'm going to talk about the

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Nottingham show Roswell now you've heard

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the term lost world for many many times

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I'm sure but never associated with

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Nottingham sure now was well of course

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it's a place it's a city or it's a city

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or town it's called a city a New Mexico

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USA now in July of 1947 and something

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very strange happened and artifacts of

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extraterrestrial origin came to grief on

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the Earth's surface and was secretly

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salvaged by the government the

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government then put out a cover story

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and said it had been just a weather

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balloon they've changed their to several

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times over the last 70 years since then

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well that's true I mean they come up

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with all kinds of cock-and-bull stories

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and you name it they thought of it but

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they still deny that it was an

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extraterrestrial artifact this is

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something that it's just as they

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continue to this day and I'm glad to say

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that I actually am organized an event

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called Roswell 70 which is the only

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event marking the 70th anniversary of

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outside was while itself I was quite

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surprised that no one else was doing it

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home I wanted to I thought something's

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gonna do one in Britain so I'll go to

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that one I couldn't get over the Rose

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Bowl then I realize no one more so I

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thought what to do with that it's

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usually the story so it's 70 years ago

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that's right but and the Roswell of

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course is a name it's a name of the city

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but it's only a matter of time before

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the Oxford English Dictionary puts

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Roswell into its pages as common noun to

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refer to this kind of event it's an

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entire sector of ufology since high

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discipline if you follow gee the crash

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retrieval as it's sometimes called and

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indeed we and ufology already do that

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you hear terms such as the brazilian

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roswell so well as well the russian

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roswell what what is essentially simply

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a word which has now been used for this

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kind for this particular type of UFO

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event this where a large amount of very

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decisive physical evidence turns up on

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the earth's surface and is then covered

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up the government put a big cordon

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around it they get rid of evidence then

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they put out a cover story and they say

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nothing happens here move along the

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Roswell incident try 1947 is not the

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only one in fact it's not even the first

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next one place this is what you'll see

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if you google Roswell you'll see an

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image like this which shows a flying

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saucer and military around it examining

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it keeping people away keeping people on

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lookers the kind of people like me who

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are interested in these sort of things

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away from it all

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this is just one of many many occasions

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where this kind of thing has happened in

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fact Roswell was not even the first one

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there's distinct evidence to suggest to

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suggest that a similar event happened in

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Cape Girardeau Missouri USA in 1945 in

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gate said England in 1940 and indeed if

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you want to find a beginnings to all

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this there's a one in the late 19th

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century ain't no in 1897 happened in

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Aurora Texas these things don't only

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happen in the

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States of America it just status a place

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where they tend to be reported their

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most that's drink a lot of water

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I've got drawing lips at the moment of

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some reason now the next slide please

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it's a boy but yeah

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Ryan would called magic eyes only she

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Earth's encounters with extraterrestrial

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technology this is a book which

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documents the Roswell the crash

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retrieval events approved the course of

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the 20th century and indeed in this book

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you'll find over a hundred entries now

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that's an average of one per year of

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course not all of them are going to be

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the real thing

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yeah even if the half of them are even

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if a quarter of them are real it means

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that the crash retrieval is a regular

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event that happens quite often

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I mean why it happens I'm not sure but

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do the alien spacecraft breakdown are

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they shot down by people on earth

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perhaps some one of the theories is that

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the aliens put these refugees around

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deliberate for us to find whatever

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reason whatever the cause there's no

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guarantee some of these events true and

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which means the next one could be near

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where you are now next one please

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here's a good example of what I think

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he's very very interesting evidence this

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is a still from a video it's actually

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from a film a cine film that was bought

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on the black market in Russia a few

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years ago and it was actually put into a

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TV documentary called the Russian

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Roswell and Roger Moore presented it the

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guy over there James Bond it's very very

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good now you see here a disc-shaped

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object embedded in the ground there's

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some Red Army soldiers around it and

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they used to see us but I mean all the

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top seat I'm seeing later on in there

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this is all being currently actual film

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stock and everything has been confirmed

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as real experts have looked at it and

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they said the uniforms and the weapons

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and equipment are all real is what do

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you expect in the Soviet Union in the

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1960s so in other words everything

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that's wrong with that alien autopsy

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thing

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came out in 1995 he's right with this I

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can't I wondering if that may explain

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the presence of the alien autopsy film

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but that so that's another subject a big

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one but as you can see yeah this is

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something the this is something happens

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outside the United States of America

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this happens in all countries all over

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the world yes what's strange about this

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is that the response from the government

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in the Soviet Union in the 1960s at the

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height of the Cold War was pretty much

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the same as what you found in the United

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States of America and its allies there

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were several events like this in Russia

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actually so the Soviet Union was at its

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height was the largest nation on earth

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covered 1/6 of the land the Earth's

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landmasses probably received more than

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its fair share of traffic trebles BC

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exactly the same thing happening you see

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the gunmen will turn up there put

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Corden's around the area they'll keep

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people away

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they'll tell them it was a weather

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balloon or a helicopter crash or a test

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dummy or anything anything that anything

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they didn't think of they'd have put

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people's interest away who brought

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people's interest away from this

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particular event now during the Cold War

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and nominally the United States of

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America and the Soviet Union were at

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loggerheads there were enemies in the

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Cold War they were on opposite sides of

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his conflict yes the same thing was done

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when this particular crash retrieval

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event happened and what's more you'll

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find the saving happening in all other

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countries where crash retrievals take

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place it is as if some global policy

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have been instituted for dealing with

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these things with all sovereign states

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of the world obey very very good

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question why why and how are the first

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questions that come to mind then anyone

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has that's a big subject and as Ronnie

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corporate would say on with a joke next

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one please

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now the event London talked about

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sealing was reported in this magazine

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how many of you read Nexis must be some

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of you yeah it's a it's a great magazine

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it's just exactly the kind of magazine

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for people with people like us with all

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kinds of interests it's based in

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it's been run instance the 80s and I'm a

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regular subscriber I get it delivered

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this is volume 4 number 6 issue 6 and it

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was issued this came out in I think was

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the channel if every version jan for

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every issue of 1997 and it referred to

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an event that happened 10 years earlier

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in 1987 and there's not a culinary

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authored by an australian researcher

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called Harry Mason and he refers to an

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event she calls the Mansfield incident

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I'm going to call it the Notting Hill

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Roswell because I think it deserves it

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that's a better name for it but this was

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reported to him by some guy called John

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King who you might know he's only

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someone I know I said he used to run he

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used to run a magazine called him Sky

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Watch he wasn't there it was a first

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generation internet magazine a magazine

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easy and it was all about your thirst he

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got his story from some of what Ashley

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Wray who has been confirmed as a real

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person and what's more I know where

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actually ride got his information from

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and this is something I discovered

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exclusively when I started investigating

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this particular event but certainly

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talks about something which happened on

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on a cold autumnal night on the 12th of

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November 1987 it was a thirsty night he

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was the early hours of the morning this

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was about half past 1:00 in the morning

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are people people even better they were

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watching late night TV which there was a

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film on called the Battle of Britain

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which is all about and bombs being jobs

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and things like that which is very

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ironic considering what happened next

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just imagine that you see this is the

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this is a kind of scene big for you

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where this really strange event replaces

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an ordinary Street in the English

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Midlands and of course it's all three

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places where UFO events do happen it's

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not always it's not always strange

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military bases and with weird exotic

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desert locations it's right on our

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doorstep

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as you guys know here because you've

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been researching them so what happened

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was there was a large explosion at a

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large bang a huge explosion coming from

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the sky people thought it was thunder at

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first

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because that's simply what our memory

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the first thing I memory latches onto

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they thought it was either thunder it

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was a low-flying aircraft but it was

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much too loud and what's more there was

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a shockwave

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considerable damage to a large number of

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premises in a lot in a very very wide

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reaching air in areas several miles

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across was affected by this tiles fell

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off roofs windows smashed what setting

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one case of wall fell down when a house

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was actually really really badly damaged

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nobody was killed or injured as far as I

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know which is pretty miraculous because

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this is there was a very very powerful

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shockwave indeed it also did damage

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their local infrastructure of

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electricity was off for a week at least

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I know because from talking to several

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people in the area I used to have a

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partner who lived in this area so when

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when I used to go and see her I had a

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base of operations which is how I was in

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very very good position to actually

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research this particular subject no one

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was killed or injured as far as I know

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but large amounts of damage to property

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was done if at one of the witnesses one

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of the most one of most interesting

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witnesses is a man who runs a local

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insurance brokerage firm because he was

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inundated with claims another witness

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was a TV and video repairman and he was

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the reason he was inundated with

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requests for how it was because along

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with the explosion there was an

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electromagnetic pulse this is something

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which often happens junit which happens

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in a nuclear explosion very very

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powerful X electromagnetic field is

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generated very short live very very

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intense which can do damage to

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electrical circuits and a large number

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of televisions were broken video

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cassette recorders were broken things

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and have DVDs in those days and this guy

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was basically rushed off his feet with

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people turning up at the shop and

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they're with their Duff pieces of

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equipment that's caused by

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electromagnetic pulses now one of the

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things that could be it could what if it

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was a nuclear explosion it's unlikely

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because there was no heat effects

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because the nuclear exposure doesn't

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like on our ban you do get the magnet

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electromagnetic pulse be also going to

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eat flash which starts fires and burns

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things like that and that wasn't

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reported there's no sign of any heat

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effect from this event

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it's just a noise shockwave

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electromagnetic pulse and next one

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please right now this is what people

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reported seeing as people rushed out

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into the street to see what was going on

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they looked up and they saw lights they

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saw zigzagging lights crossing the sky

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more than one we're not sure exactly how

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many we're course very large number of

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zigzagging lights go backwards and

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forwards all around the place somewhat

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brighter someone darker some of them are

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making strange noises some people

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reported hearing strange humming noises

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from them how the next one is going now

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this is the basic area what we're

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talking about this is the area the

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general area that was affected by the

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shock wave an electromagnetic pulse the

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sound was heard over much wider area

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because it was so loud but this is the

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era basically where the worst kinds of

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effect was this is a very very large

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area this is a several dozen square

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miles 11,000 people lived here in 1987

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this is part of what's called the

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knotting and conurbation although that

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that term wasn't used in those days

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they're not even conurbation refers to

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the city of Nottingham to the South here

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and the various large towns mostly to

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the north of the city which the north of

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city is a patchwork of woodland arable

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farmland pasture and large towns such as

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here we have Mansfield and Sutton the

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Nashville Kirby in Ashfield normal

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Turner lineThe Ravens head etc etc the

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area in the middle of this is called the

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Miss kills it's a beauty spot happens in

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this particular case now the the light

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first seen in this area here to the

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north and the Northeast these lights

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traveled in a distinct direction from

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northeast to southwest beginning here in

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this area here in Mansfield and to the

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eastern is a big green blob at Sherwood

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Forest of Robin Hood fame these lights

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appear over Sherwood Forest and

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Mansfield and traveled south westerly

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across this district the subtlest this

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and Asheville district here now one now

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this is important this is what's it

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where it gets interesting

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something came down an object a large

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object probably sixty feet or so across

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Harry makes and records actually touch

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down on the earth twice it landed got

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back up into the air and it landed again

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and stayed landed he Harry Mason refers

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to the first incident as a bounce he

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said it bounced it hit the ground and

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bounced up into the air again it landed

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in a place called thieves would which is

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just south of Mansfield that green spot

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just south of Mansfield and that's

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that's where we're gonna go next so next

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slide please

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now what happened was are in that area

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now this is very very this is another

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interesting factor which ties in with

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some other other UFO events which I'm

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going to talk about later including the

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very very well-known case here in Wales

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by 2:15 in the morning there were

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helicopters overhead large military

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helicopters including h-dog which is a

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transport aircraft with twin rotor

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blades it's very very easily

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recognizable it's got twin rotor blades

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one in tandem one at the front one on

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the back and these were flying over this

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area shining lights at the round the

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same way that police helicopters do

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nowadays although those weren't knew so

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much in 1987 and this went on for quite

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a long time they were shiny lights down

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on the ground as if looking for

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something they were looking for

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something this is so very intriguing

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because I was certain one of the

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researchers who actually looked into

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this he found out that these aircraft

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were deployed from re RAF Cranwell an

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RAF Coningsby and RAF Cranwell is now

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defunct he's shut down but these were

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not part of the normal fleet that were

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based as those airfields and also the

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fact that they they responded so quickly

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means that these forces were deployed

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forward into the area by the

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government's deliberately before the

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explosion and the crash which means that

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the government had

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kind of foreknowledge they didn't know

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exactly where this was going to happen

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otherwise they could just stationed the

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troops underneath it and wait for it

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happen but they knew within a rough area

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where this was going to happen

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rather you know within they were

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accurate enough to really get some

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forces on the ground in that area and

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also the aircraft searching in that area

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ready to respond when the event happened

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because they couldn't respond to this

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quickly otherwise history 45 minutes

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they could have responded as quickly if

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they hadn't had some kind foreknowledge

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so couldn't have the next one

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police said like so will be the first

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thing my researcher for my research of

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friends actually tried to do was they

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wanted to [\h__\h] they wanted to find out

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what whether this was reported in the

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papers and they and some this guy I

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don't know introduce you to him it in a

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minute but he he decided to look into

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the newspaper archives and not all of

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them were online you actually go to the

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newspaper office and look for them on

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microfiche and he did he couldn't

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actually see any reference to this event

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anywhere in the papers however we know

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it wasn't it turns out that it was

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reported but for some reasons missing

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no because the Ministry of Defense UFO

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desk made a record of it thanks and

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thanks to Nick Pope god bless him what

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would we do without Nick Pope heinous

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this is now coming up this is an article

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on the online edition of the Nottingham

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Post which is the principal local

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newspaper and it goes do aliens exist

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and if so have they visited Mansfield

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this was from August 2010

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either way newly released government

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reports make an interesting read the

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National Archive is releasing thousands

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of pages of previously classified

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Ministry of Defense documents today

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relating to a may or may not be out

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there these newly released files showed

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no lot new lights on any of that they do

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however reveal a high degree of interest

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in a 1987 incident in the terms of

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Nottingham sure revelations the files

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highlight the persistent efforts and

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meticulous notes on another person for

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organisation in finding out what really

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happened Salim

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in the early hours of November 12 1987

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according to the letter sent to the mot

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person learned of the event in the

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magazine UFO reality the letter writer

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explained that he or she had my doubts

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after reading the article but ignoring

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the poor report would do no good

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they then wrote to the editor of UFO

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reality with a few background details on

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my past work in ufology that sir nick

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pope and expressing an interest in the

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mansfield crash now you might say that

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this person simply got the idea because

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they saw in UFO reality they didn't

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relate to any real event that happened

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but that's actually not the case because

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there are several people in the local

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area who remember it at the next line

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placer

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now this is thieves would this is what

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this is the area where the bounce

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happened the first touchdown of an

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object Harry makes the Meccans of a 60

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feet across it's hard to be certain but

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we know that it did leave some residual

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impressions on the landscape which he

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estimates from that and this is the area

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where it happened this is the air or how

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thieves well this is a closer image of

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thieves wood which is just south of

550
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:28,360
Mansfield the road up the middle there

551
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:32,970
is the is the a 60 this is the main

552
00:23:36,810 --> 00:23:34,810
thoroughfare between Nottingham and

553
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:36,820
Mansfield the two largest towns in

554
00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:39,910
Nottingham shifts now and this is really

555
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:41,380
interesting because I actually decided

556
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:44,350
to look into this I decided I'd take a

557
00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:46,690
particulate look around and so I

558
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:49,540
contacted someone a friend of mine

559
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:51,010
Michael Daniel Bostock who actually

560
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:53,110
lives in Kirby in Asheville which is one

561
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:54,430
of these towns in the Nottingham

562
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,890
conurbation and he told me he knew all

563
00:24:01,170 --> 00:23:58,960
about it he knew but not if she was what

564
00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:01,180
he remembers some of the effects he

565
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:02,860
remembers because he was a teenager at

566
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:06,910
the time but he remembers having to get

567
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:09,250
water from Bowser's because the water

568
00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:12,010
pipes were broken by the shock wave he

569
00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:14,950
remembers doing now he said that they

570
00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:17,350
brought big tanks of water on wheels

571
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,000
just like I did during the great drought

572
00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:21,520
of 1976 so the people could actually

573
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:24,660
drink and they brought these in and

574
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:26,890
that's how people have water from while

575
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,810
the electricity was off as well it's

576
00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:30,080
quite cold and

577
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,390
he said was you remember rapping on how

578
00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:34,240
to wrap up very warm because of the cold

579
00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:36,470
what was happening at the time and the

580
00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:39,320
heating was all off so I got in touch

581
00:24:44,289 --> 00:24:41,510
with Daniel and he and I took a little

582
00:24:46,930 --> 00:24:44,299
trip we drove up to the top left-hand

583
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:46,940
corner this is where he thought this is

584
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:48,769
where he said this is the place where

585
00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:50,990
they'll happen because it was a big fire

586
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:52,760
there is this craft that came down call

587
00:24:57,310 --> 00:24:55,850
it's a big fire don't we did was we part

588
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:57,320
of the top that we now there's a little

589
00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:00,799
road leads along to the west from the

590
00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:04,460
main road the a 16 and you see the patch

591
00:25:08,289 --> 00:25:05,870
of woodland there which is a bit

592
00:25:11,649 --> 00:25:08,299
threadbare in places we walked along

593
00:25:13,299 --> 00:25:11,659
there and we knocked on a few doors on

594
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,309
the other just asking - so there's a few

595
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:15,679
houses there just asking people to ask

596
00:25:18,370 --> 00:25:17,330
people whether they remembered anything

597
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:18,380
but they've been in the area at the time

598
00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:20,809
only one person asked it and they said

599
00:25:23,409 --> 00:25:21,860
they didn't remember anything of the

600
00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:23,419
type even though they had been in that

601
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:25,909
area at a time so it was no luck there

602
00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:28,250
but we want to be further along on the

603
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:32,149
next slide please point and we came

604
00:25:37,930 --> 00:25:35,450
across a patch of deforested land there

605
00:25:40,269 --> 00:25:37,940
were some tree stumps logs lying around

606
00:25:44,409 --> 00:25:40,279
rotten logs and this particular stump

607
00:25:46,419 --> 00:25:44,419
here is about 12 feet high and it is its

608
00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:46,429
scourge its blackened it appears to

609
00:25:51,129 --> 00:25:49,340
happen to be affected by heat now

610
00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:51,139
there's many many caused things that

611
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:52,580
could have caused that because lit

612
00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:55,190
forest fire and of course this kind of

613
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:56,620
damage I'm not saying that this

614
00:26:04,930 --> 00:25:58,970
particularly was that was caused by this

615
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:04,940
UFO event but it's um it was interesting

616
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:06,260
to us at the time I made a little video

617
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:08,690
at the time which is not one of my best

618
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:11,679
- technically but I did upload it and

619
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:14,450
put it together just to show this

620
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,250
evidence we just walked up when we found

621
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:17,840
this little patch here I counted the

622
00:26:22,269 --> 00:26:19,580
rings on some of the stumps and they

623
00:26:24,580 --> 00:26:22,279
were like 67 years 70 years 90 years

624
00:26:26,649 --> 00:26:24,590
they were quite old trees which means

625
00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:26,659
they would have been there when this

626
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,340
event happened in 1987 what's more

627
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:30,320
judging by the size of this dump I can't

628
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:32,210
account any rings on this but judging by

629
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:33,610
the size of it it must have been there

630
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:36,590
when it must have been a living tree or

631
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:38,809
must have been around when this

632
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:40,730
particular event

633
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:43,500
so what happened was after that I

634
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:47,430
uploaded the video to YouTube and then

635
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:51,870
was contacted by a local researchers I

636
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:53,370
was contacted by a guy called Nigel he

637
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:54,510
just called himself Nigel in the

638
00:26:59,390 --> 00:26:57,330
comments box has been email me you were

639
00:27:02,930 --> 00:26:59,400
looking in the wrong place I know where

640
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:02,940
the UFO came down that's all right

641
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:05,010
shrieks or email this guy and I got to I

642
00:27:09,890 --> 00:27:08,640
got talking to a man's own well um a lot

643
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:09,900
what happened from them next slide

644
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:13,410
please one this is the chapel talk about

645
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:15,930
Nigel Crowley his name is he's a local

646
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:18,450
man lives in Ravens head within that

647
00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:20,760
area we're just talking about and he was

648
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:21,990
very very happy to me have a long

649
00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:23,940
conversation with him and what's more

650
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:26,580
I've made a follow-up video featuring

651
00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:29,250
Nigel and Dan where we actually take a

652
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:31,920
trip into these woods why I believe what

653
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:33,570
Nigel believed from my belief having

654
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:35,490
lots of the evidence is there a correct

655
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:37,740
location for where the object came down

656
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:40,800
and bounced and how nice was intriguing

657
00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:44,720
kind of person he's a bit like war would

658
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:49,470
call a keep a folk history now we all

659
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:52,650
know about history about how some things

660
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:54,030
in history not true like the Roswell

661
00:27:58,690 --> 00:27:56,400
incident was a weather balloon and John

662
00:28:02,240 --> 00:27:58,700
F Kennedy was shot by a lone nut case

663
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:02,250
setter etcetera but the keepers of

664
00:28:06,410 --> 00:28:04,380
unofficial history I think are far more

665
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:06,420
important than this I'll give you them

666
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:08,400
I'll just give you a little brief this

667
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:10,110
little brief interlude here we're on

668
00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:11,880
let's explain what I mean another next

669
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:14,550
one please Mike how many people you have

670
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:17,790
seen the x-files each a question how

671
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:19,530
many people you haven't seen the x-files

672
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:22,620
that's an audience like this you should

673
00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:25,350
start within haven't seen yeah now

674
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:27,180
there's a very interesting episode next

675
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,810
slide please Mike there's a very

676
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:33,840
interesting episode indeed it's in its

677
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:35,790
the it's actually the first episode of

678
00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:37,950
the third season of the series it's

679
00:28:43,049 --> 00:28:40,680
called the blessing way and it features

680
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:43,059
it's got a red Indian thing and what

681
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:45,190
countess he's a guy called Albert

682
00:28:50,269 --> 00:28:47,590
hosteen and he's played by Floyd red

683
00:28:52,830 --> 00:28:50,279
crow Westerman who's a famous red Indian

684
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:52,840
sage in the United States he's a poet

685
00:28:58,860 --> 00:28:55,870
he's a feature writer and he actually

686
00:29:00,419 --> 00:28:58,870
stars in this episode of the x-files and

687
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:00,429
there's a scene as a very growing young

688
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:04,450
disturbing scene where there's like a a

689
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:07,090
railway truck which is buried you see

690
00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:11,350
it's buried here and they say and

691
00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:13,480
there's like skylights on the roof of

692
00:29:16,499 --> 00:29:15,220
this and in one of the scenes I think

693
00:29:18,509 --> 00:29:16,509
it's clear the beginning of the episode

694
00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:18,519
you see these skylights open and there's

695
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:20,820
some men standing on the roof with

696
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:24,129
hazmat suits on full NBC here gas masks

697
00:29:30,299 --> 00:29:27,460
and suits gloves and things and they

698
00:29:34,049 --> 00:29:30,309
throw these these canisters in and these

699
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:34,059
canisters are incendiary bombs and they

700
00:29:37,379 --> 00:29:35,769
explode and they burn and the aliens run

701
00:29:39,330 --> 00:29:37,389
around burning screaming as they run

702
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:39,340
around burning and this voice-over comes

703
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:43,600
upon and he says there's an ancient

704
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:46,360
Indian saying that something lasts only

705
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:48,129
as long as the last person who remembers

706
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:51,220
it my people have come to trust memory

707
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,669
over history memory like fire is radiant

708
00:29:59,580 --> 00:29:57,039
and immutable while history serves only

709
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,590
those who seek to control it those who

710
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:02,320
would douse the flame of memory in order

711
00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:04,980
to put out the dangerous fire of truth

712
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:07,480
they are dangerous them set that and

713
00:30:11,999 --> 00:30:09,220
beware these men for they are dangerous

714
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:12,009
themselves and unwise their false

715
00:30:15,869 --> 00:30:13,480
history is written in the blood of those

716
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:15,879
who might remember and of those who seek

717
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:18,970
the truth I said that was a very young a

718
00:30:23,789 --> 00:30:22,240
very poignant and very revealing little

719
00:30:25,139 --> 00:30:23,799
scene in the x-files there's a lot of

720
00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:25,149
things like that in the x-files it's a

721
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:27,580
really interesting series in that

722
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,369
respect nominal Crowley I think is one

723
00:30:36,299 --> 00:30:33,279
of these people I think he really is

724
00:30:39,989 --> 00:30:36,309
some he really is is it possible there

725
00:30:41,779 --> 00:30:39,999
back to slides might disappoint another

726
00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:41,789
one

727
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,940
and another now keep keep your eyes on

728
00:30:52,099 --> 00:30:49,919
that bottom that will clearing there in

729
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:52,109
the bottom left okay can we go forward a

730
00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:53,609
few spies don't like just to where we

731
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:56,220
were before and move on to the next one

732
00:31:00,769 --> 00:30:57,600
that's it that's great

733
00:31:03,349 --> 00:31:00,779
now you see here there's this little

734
00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:03,359
patch here the bear patch I'll come to

735
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:05,100
that in a minute in detail but first of

736
00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:07,769
all Nigel told me exactly where the

737
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:09,539
accordin was because there was a whole

738
00:31:13,879 --> 00:31:12,330
area sealed off there was a whole area

739
00:31:15,859 --> 00:31:13,889
of thieves were the whole western half

740
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:15,869
of Sita thieves were sealed off from

741
00:31:20,749 --> 00:31:18,840
public access for about a week now Harry

742
00:31:22,729 --> 00:31:20,759
Mason mentions this in his article Nigel

743
00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:22,739
said not only it was about a week but

744
00:31:34,369 --> 00:31:25,799
said that he knows exactly where it laid

745
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:34,379
because he was there at time so the a60

746
00:31:40,879 --> 00:31:37,529
the main road between not signal

747
00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:40,889
Mansfield was sealed off you shut this

748
00:31:43,580 --> 00:31:42,119
for a week now this caused a lot of

749
00:31:45,859 --> 00:31:43,590
traffic chaos because this is the main

750
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:45,869
artery between the two largest towns in

751
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:47,249
Nottingham a lot of the traffic where

752
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:49,529
the drug traffic was all diverted to the

753
00:31:54,109 --> 00:31:51,330
east route little small villages Loeb

754
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,119
liveth and Lydon B and there was massive

755
00:31:58,249 --> 00:31:56,399
traffic chaos now when I first brought

756
00:32:00,529 --> 00:31:58,259
this up at a speech I did it not to him

757
00:32:02,089 --> 00:32:00,539
itself a guy stuck it's stuck up his

758
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,099
hand he said I remember it I was a lorry

759
00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:04,799
driver at the time and I remember the I

760
00:32:08,539 --> 00:32:06,179
remember the snarl ups and the tail

761
00:32:10,489 --> 00:32:08,549
backs as people trying to maneuver their

762
00:32:11,659 --> 00:32:10,499
way around this diversion through these

763
00:32:13,129 --> 00:32:11,669
little roads which were not meant for

764
00:32:15,619 --> 00:32:13,139
that that amount of traffic they lasted

765
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:15,629
a week so this whole road sealed off

766
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:17,879
this here is the a6000 everything to the

767
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:19,830
west of that is sealed off there's the

768
00:32:23,089 --> 00:32:21,330
West nothing to college at the top and

769
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:23,099
the road there was sealed off on the

770
00:32:26,749 --> 00:32:25,470
hypotenuse of the triangle you see this

771
00:32:28,609 --> 00:32:26,759
road going down here and then there's

772
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,619
Kurt be in Ashfield on the southwest

773
00:32:32,659 --> 00:32:31,200
there honest but this base this is

774
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:32,669
another road that goes along on there to

775
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,220
the east and there's Ravens head which

776
00:32:38,479 --> 00:32:36,960
is that we asked his car park there

777
00:32:39,589 --> 00:32:38,489
where we actually met together when we

778
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,599
went off on our expedition

779
00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:42,080
our second expedition in Thebes would

780
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:44,820
and that was so basically there were

781
00:32:49,159 --> 00:32:46,289
roadblocks everywhere

782
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:49,169
police and military the armed army

783
00:32:51,789 --> 00:32:50,330
lawyers coming in and out and

784
00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:51,799
thing else came in and out helicopters

785
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:54,830
taking off and landing in the area but

786
00:33:01,180 --> 00:32:58,490
nothing nothing else now I'm Daniel

787
00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:01,190
retinas he remembers a news story about

788
00:33:06,220 --> 00:33:03,380
a helicopter crashing in this area I'm

789
00:33:07,090 --> 00:33:06,230
not sure if that's true but if it was

790
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:07,100
then

791
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:09,649
well helicopters do crash sometimes and

792
00:33:14,259 --> 00:33:13,460
there was a couple of venting 2014 there

793
00:33:16,029 --> 00:33:14,269
were the world when we did our

794
00:33:17,649 --> 00:33:16,039
expedition out three events where

795
00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:17,659
helicopters crashes normally pulling

796
00:33:21,490 --> 00:33:19,190
some ribbon around it in a Bobby on the

797
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,500
beat to stand over it is usually enough

798
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:23,360
and usually only for a few hours this

799
00:33:27,610 --> 00:33:26,000
was a week but it seems like half the

800
00:33:32,169 --> 00:33:27,620
Armed Forces were there was a massive

801
00:33:34,659 --> 00:33:32,179
event and it was basically at the end of

802
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:34,669
it all they raised they raised the

803
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:36,289
cordon they went away listen there was

804
00:33:40,210 --> 00:33:37,250
not nothing in the news nothing

805
00:33:41,529 --> 00:33:40,220
mentioned in the news and so at least if

806
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:41,539
there was any news reports there were

807
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:42,860
fake stories and they were like two

808
00:33:48,029 --> 00:33:45,710
removed from the archives so from the

809
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:48,039
next slide please

810
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:50,809
now this year this is we're gonna take a

811
00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:55,130
closer look at this little Glade now

812
00:33:58,509 --> 00:33:56,630
this is all Forestry Commission land

813
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,519
these trees are used for paper crop

814
00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:00,080
things like that the coniferous trees

815
00:34:05,409 --> 00:34:03,740
most of them and they're quite old as I

816
00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:05,419
said oh I went up to the top here I

817
00:34:12,339 --> 00:34:08,750
found large trees and I counted rings 60

818
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:12,349
70 or so years old now there's a what

819
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:13,609
there's a couple of exceptions a couple

820
00:34:17,379 --> 00:34:15,440
of best spots here cluding this one here

821
00:34:20,169 --> 00:34:17,389
it's best spot then there's also a big

822
00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:20,179
long trail leading away from it as well

823
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:23,240
it's best square area here now this is

824
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,770
languish the Forestry Commission owns

825
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:27,440
it's not using it's not using to grow

826
00:34:33,849 --> 00:34:30,889
trees on now according to Nigel this is

827
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:33,859
where the UFO came down in 1987 it

828
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:36,050
struck the ground got back up into the

829
00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:39,740
air but left behind a complete mess not

830
00:34:44,649 --> 00:34:42,260
only did its impact actually destroy a

831
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:44,659
lot of trees and damaged the ground but

832
00:34:49,869 --> 00:34:46,790
it also started a fire I don't know

833
00:34:52,359 --> 00:34:49,879
whether this is because the UFO was very

834
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,369
hot it was radiating a lot of heat some

835
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:54,800
of them do or whether it was some effect

836
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,450
of directed-energy say microwave

837
00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:00,400
or something like that but a use for its

838
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:03,849
fire broke out in that area and some

839
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:05,470
Nigel point of some of the trees I'll

840
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:06,880
show you another some tree I didn't get

841
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:08,530
couldn't get good enough photos be says

842
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:09,910
there's fire damage on some of the trees

843
00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:12,820
around the time but fire brigades were

844
00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:16,060
called away called in from a long way

845
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:17,740
off as far away as bignum which is in

846
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:19,150
the Russ clip district to the east of

847
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:21,369
Nottingham and there must've been a

848
00:35:26,220 --> 00:35:24,310
major incident called and they they

849
00:35:28,109 --> 00:35:26,230
basically doused the fire but then the

850
00:35:36,359 --> 00:35:28,119
army turned up and said there said the

851
00:35:38,339 --> 00:35:36,369
fire brigade packing next one please now

852
00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:38,349
this is a photo I took when we went into

853
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,400
that little Glade

854
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:41,760
it's a square clearing as you can see

855
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:45,190
now when that when that's a Google Earth

856
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:46,720
image was taken Nigel Wright was about

857
00:35:52,829 --> 00:35:49,150
2001 it's changed a bit since then the

858
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:52,839
land has recovered there is now growth

859
00:35:58,650 --> 00:35:55,540
there small trees bushes as you can see

860
00:36:01,079 --> 00:35:58,660
here there's some small juvenile silver

861
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:01,089
birch you see the main see the main

862
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:03,060
canopy of trees behind a bit at the back

863
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:06,400
that green canopy is the wrestling trees

864
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:08,050
in the other part of the wood as you can

865
00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:10,180
see they're far more mature these trees

866
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:11,589
are growing back possibly in a few

867
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:14,410
decades the trees in the bare spot will

868
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:15,880
have reached mature height and you

869
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:17,410
wouldn't be able to tell anything that

870
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:20,140
happened but basically it is taking a

871
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:23,380
long time I'm Nigel said that this whole

872
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:25,480
area is about 300 feet by 600 us and

873
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:29,170
oblong he said that sir when the army

874
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:32,200
moved in they dug up and six to nine

875
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:34,119
inches of topsoil here at sea they took

876
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:38,200
all the topsoil away from the area and

877
00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:41,440
they replaced it with clay and sand and

878
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:42,700
he said for a long time this was nothing

879
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,530
but massive sand pit here's nothing here

880
00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:46,240
the sand nothing was growing it just

881
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:49,480
took a few blades of grass and it's but

882
00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:51,790
now this was some obviously a long time

883
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:54,630
ago now it started to change but some

884
00:36:58,770 --> 00:36:57,040
obviously the question there is why why

885
00:37:00,839 --> 00:36:58,780
do they do that there are several

886
00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:00,849
reasons is possibly because the

887
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:02,140
government would the government were

888
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:04,470
concerned that some kind of contaminant

889
00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:08,200
had been released from the object when

890
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:11,160
it came down could be some form of

891
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:14,170
bacteria or virus you all see this

892
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:16,450
horror films haven't you wear something

893
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:18,250
alien lands on earth and he starts with

894
00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:21,520
leaching pathogens which cause horrible

895
00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:24,790
things and the humans I mean now it must

896
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:25,990
have been a real concern for them a

897
00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:29,890
genuine possibility so that may be one

898
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:32,980
reason why they that's maybe one reason

899
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:35,350
why they they actually did that another

900
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:38,500
simply could be to remove any residual

901
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:41,680
physical evidence now in the Roswell

902
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:44,590
incident of 1947 something similar

903
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:46,030
happened the craft came down hit the

904
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:48,460
ground we believe got back into the air

905
00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:51,520
and then crash at another location but

906
00:37:55,410 --> 00:37:53,080
it left behind a debris field this is

907
00:37:58,380 --> 00:37:55,420
what Mac Brazel and Jesse Marcel found

908
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,390
on on the Brazel Raj now when that

909
00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:00,160
happens the government seal off the area

910
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:02,080
they sent in forensic teams to clear

911
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:04,150
away all the loose debris and it's

912
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:06,040
possible this is what the government

913
00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:07,450
wanted to do they wanted to get rid the

914
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,820
topsoil so that any lingering evidence

915
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:11,680
that this craft had appeared would be

916
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:14,770
removed and so that when people when the

917
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:16,930
public was allowed back in there they

918
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:18,190
wouldn't find anything if they weren't

919
00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:20,290
looking now the public more allowed in

920
00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:22,120
after a week and they found this area

921
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,040
completely devoid of everything except a

922
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:26,160
big pile of sand

923
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,880
next slide please Mike now this is Sam

924
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:32,800
this is actually our part of this is in

925
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,390
the middle of it the area now I went

926
00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:36,400
down there I took I actually didn't take

927
00:38:41,490 --> 00:38:38,080
any proper soil samples but I did

928
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:41,500
examine the soil and I compared it to

929
00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:43,420
the soil which was in other parts of

930
00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:44,860
this wood and there's a distinct

931
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:47,740
difference the soil in that clearing is

932
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,010
much more sandy it's not just it's not

933
00:38:55,140 --> 00:38:53,200
sad obviously you know over time the

934
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:55,150
land recovers the soil recovers but it's

935
00:38:58,050 --> 00:38:56,470
much more sandy there are a few mole

936
00:39:01,080 --> 00:38:58,060
hills in that area you see quite clearly

937
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:01,090
the difference in color between the mole

938
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:02,710
hills in this area the mole hills in

939
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:04,930
other parts of the wood when it's all

940
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:07,300
brown alone it's more natural soil as

941
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:09,790
this is definitely sadly this fence here

942
00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:11,860
is it's just a crude wooden fence that's

943
00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:15,790
been built around the the middle is like

944
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,940
a furrow in the middle of this clearing

945
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:20,800
it's like a clue slopes down like a

946
00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:23,210
furrow and it's very marshy down there

947
00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:26,630
there's lots of mud and Nigel says this

948
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:29,060
is caused this furrow was created by the

949
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:32,090
impact of the object this had farah

950
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:34,010
created by the impact of the UFO 60 foot

951
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:37,520
wide UFO crashed maybe move dragged

952
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,930
itself along for a while and got back

953
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:40,240
into the air

954
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:44,690
next slide please - so what happened to

955
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:46,100
it next he got back into the air but did

956
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,190
it did it fly away no it actually flew

957
00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:50,720
from here feets would you see there's

958
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:51,860
that there's where there's the clearing

959
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:54,710
now it flew on for five more miles here

960
00:39:58,450 --> 00:39:56,230
through the into the mists kills

961
00:40:01,300 --> 00:39:58,460
possibly over the holy World Golf Course

962
00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:01,310
and then came to grief again the second

963
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:03,860
time at Amazon a Hall this is this area

964
00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:06,910
in the bottom there in the far bottom

965
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:09,500
you see if I'm gonna do then have a

966
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:11,390
closer look at that might the next slide

967
00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:12,910
please

968
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:16,820
the war on this is said to be where the

969
00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:19,370
craft landed and when it landed knew it

970
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:21,950
stayed there sorry it crashed a little

971
00:40:25,810 --> 00:40:23,410
letting it just basically stayed there

972
00:40:27,130 --> 00:40:25,820
now they see this area here you can see

973
00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:27,140
what we have here this Tansley hall

974
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:28,520
itself there's an illegals ground

975
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:31,460
there's a slip road leading from this

976
00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:33,770
main road here so there well that's

977
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:36,980
Junction 27 of the m1 the big motorway

978
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:38,810
seat going across there is the m1

979
00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:39,230
motorway

980
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:46,760
this entire episode so I Nigel Dan and I

981
00:40:51,010 --> 00:40:48,590
we decided to take a little drive south

982
00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:51,020
from Junction 27 to see if we can

983
00:40:54,610 --> 00:40:53,060
actually see that people look over to

984
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:54,620
our left and see anything of anslee halt

985
00:40:57,850 --> 00:40:56,690
we couldn't there large trees in the

986
00:40:59,860 --> 00:40:57,860
area we don't know we don't know whether

987
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,870
these trees were actually there at the

988
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,760
time there are a lot more trees around

989
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:04,160
now than there were in the 80s because

990
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:06,710
of carbon offsetting laws and green belt

991
00:41:10,090 --> 00:41:09,050
laws and things like that it's possible

992
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:10,100
these trees weren't there but they must

993
00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:11,570
have we don't know if those trees had

994
00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:12,680
been there whether it's actually

995
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:15,620
possible see Anthony Hall if it was then

996
00:41:19,390 --> 00:41:17,450
presumably the keepers of the secretive

997
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:19,400
had to take extra precautions putting

998
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:20,660
that large screens or something like

999
00:41:24,610 --> 00:41:23,210
that we don't know it's not possible

1000
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:24,620
possible to know we're there any drivers

1001
00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:26,630
gonna go past that area that time

1002
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:35,880
now the area where the object is alleged

1003
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:38,440
come to rest is called the Warren now

1004
00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:40,450
the Warren was Marcus is actually not

1005
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:42,940
been marked on any Maps the name that

1006
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,500
Warren could be seen are Ordnance Survey

1007
00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:46,480
maps before 1987

1008
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:49,960
refers to this patch of trees here and

1009
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:51,640
there's also a pond there where there's

1010
00:41:56,430 --> 00:41:53,410
fish where you can it's actually private

1011
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:56,440
the private fishing area now if you go

1012
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:57,970
and look at look at the board and survey

1013
00:42:01,859 --> 00:41:59,410
map today you won't see the name the

1014
00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:01,869
Warren written well that's what it was

1015
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:04,539
called is called the Warren and annecy

1016
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:06,940
Hall is over there annecy Hall is an old

1017
00:42:10,769 --> 00:42:08,890
stately home it was built the first part

1018
00:42:13,289 --> 00:42:10,779
of built in the 13th century and it's

1019
00:42:16,049 --> 00:42:13,299
all demolished now but there's a newer

1020
00:42:18,839 --> 00:42:16,059
part and there's this like a semi

1021
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:18,849
derelict second part there's also like

1022
00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:21,240
some modern or 19th century at least

1023
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:23,140
servants and guest quarters which are

1024
00:42:28,019 --> 00:42:25,660
still occupied today by somebody we're

1025
00:42:30,509 --> 00:42:28,029
not sure over but there's somebody still

1026
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:30,519
there still looking after the place and

1027
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:33,670
the the hallway she belongs to his chain

1028
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:36,910
worth family for our 350 years were some

1029
00:42:41,579 --> 00:42:39,190
local dignitaries in fact soon launched

1030
00:42:43,259 --> 00:42:41,589
a worth muster was the man they call the

1031
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:43,269
Sheriff of Nottingham I don't know if he

1032
00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:45,400
was a bad guy or not but from the story

1033
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:46,630
he's from the Sheriff of Nottingham but

1034
00:42:50,759 --> 00:42:47,650
they lost it in a poker game

1035
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:50,769
or maybe they lost the house and they

1036
00:42:55,049 --> 00:42:52,900
just found the ruins but it's still

1037
00:42:57,529 --> 00:42:55,059
maintained I mean the the grounds mostly

1038
00:42:59,880 --> 00:42:57,539
farmland in the grounds included here

1039
00:43:02,160 --> 00:42:59,890
this area here now you'll notice here

1040
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:02,170
the discoloured patch this is what made

1041
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:03,880
me look think about it because this is

1042
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:06,130
exactly said when Nigel told me the

1043
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:07,599
craft had come to rest before I asked he

1044
00:43:11,999 --> 00:43:09,220
looked at this image you can see there's

1045
00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:12,009
like a dark patch on the field and

1046
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:14,200
there's several others scattered around

1047
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:16,750
now I went and I used Google Earth I

1048
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:18,609
went and looked at some other pictures

1049
00:43:23,849 --> 00:43:20,529
some other aerial images of fields in

1050
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:23,859
the area and I for 20 or 30 miles around

1051
00:43:30,029 --> 00:43:26,950
I couldn't find another effect like that

1052
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:30,039
on the ground I can only see it here in

1053
00:43:35,789 --> 00:43:33,640
the Warren now the reason there's a dark

1054
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:35,799
patch there where noise worse is that

1055
00:43:40,580 --> 00:43:37,450
UFO came down could have been caused by

1056
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:40,590
um the influence of the UFO

1057
00:43:46,690 --> 00:43:44,520
have been caused by some to do with it

1058
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:46,700
the property of the craft itself

1059
00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:49,770
affecting the land beware there was

1060
00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:53,550
there was residue of where the military

1061
00:43:58,070 --> 00:43:55,950
Basin dug up the land again just like

1062
00:43:59,570 --> 00:43:58,080
they did in thieves would and possibly

1063
00:44:00,830 --> 00:43:59,580
this is why it's discolored because if

1064
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:00,840
different kind of soil they put back

1065
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:03,680
something like that but we don't know

1066
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:05,670
interesting if there's a there's a Cold

1067
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:07,620
War nuclear bunker just right about

1068
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:10,290
there on the far side of that slip road

1069
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:12,090
and you can't see you can see the

1070
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:13,290
entrance to it but it goes down about

1071
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:15,650
six levels and it's all sealed off so

1072
00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:18,540
it's kind of like a you see the entrance

1073
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:20,760
you look inside it's all wet and dingy

1074
00:44:24,590 --> 00:44:22,140
but thanks to be a Cold War nuclear

1075
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,600
bunker not we're not sure whether it had

1076
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,240
any part of playing in in this

1077
00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:29,520
particular operation to deal with this

1078
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:37,080
UFO that's not certain and now the

1079
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:38,610
security around Ansley Hall is very

1080
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,650
tight indeed there are some people who

1081
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:44,160
supposedly gain keepers who patrol that

1082
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,400
whole area 24/7 and they would I pretend

1083
00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:48,960
anyone who tries to get in today and

1084
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:54,060
they'll arrest the police the nearest

1085
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,770
you can actually get to the war on on

1086
00:44:59,810 --> 00:44:58,140
public land today there's a little trap

1087
00:45:01,880 --> 00:44:59,820
that goes down this way goes along there

1088
00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:01,890
that's called the dogged bear Lane and

1089
00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:03,420
we took a little walk down there next

1090
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:05,720
slide please

1091
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:08,280
this is a view of the second phase of a

1092
00:45:13,450 --> 00:45:10,830
noisy Hall from dollanbear Lane you see

1093
00:45:16,070 --> 00:45:13,460
here it's a semi derelict building and

1094
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:16,080
we were just opposite there this is the

1095
00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:19,650
location of where this I believe this

1096
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:22,470
object came down onto the other surface

1097
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:26,250
next slide please Mike now this year you

1098
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:28,050
see that you can't you can't see any

1099
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:30,060
timeframe without thing at the top left

1100
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:33,030
is Nigel's hand he's pointing towards

1101
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,470
the war and those packs of trees in the

1102
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:37,440
back are actually the trees I've showed

1103
00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:39,090
you on the Google Earth images in front

1104
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:41,400
of that is this field here this field is

1105
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:45,480
where this craft came down I believe you

1106
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:47,190
can't see the discoloration from ground

1107
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:49,590
level it's only actually visible from

1108
00:45:53,570 --> 00:45:51,510
the air but that is where it is that you

1109
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:53,580
see that is the actual place where it

1110
00:45:56,140 --> 00:45:54,230
came down

1111
00:45:57,790 --> 00:45:56,150
you can't get very close to it you can't

1112
00:45:59,020 --> 00:45:57,800
get closer from them from the road on

1113
00:46:00,970 --> 00:45:59,030
the other side but there's a big barbed

1114
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:00,980
wire fence to Connors to get in there

1115
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:03,200
this here is just a patch of gravel in

1116
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:07,160
the foreground next one please Mike now

1117
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:09,310
we were walking along DOM and Bear Lane

1118
00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:11,510
and what should happen it's good to what

1119
00:46:15,250 --> 00:46:13,700
I mean to our right as we as we walk up

1120
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,260
there which is just to the left of the

1121
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:16,880
old building the old Manticore building

1122
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:18,830
that i showed you there's this big long

1123
00:46:22,750 --> 00:46:21,650
low structure she's 19th century and

1124
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:22,760
it's the servant and quick guest

1125
00:46:29,410 --> 00:46:27,650
quarters for hands Nihal but um this car

1126
00:46:30,670 --> 00:46:29,420
pulled up are there people in there

1127
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Nigel says there are people in there

1128
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:32,810
this car pulled up here you see it's

1129
00:46:36,670 --> 00:46:34,609
like a goner I couldn't actually see

1130
00:46:38,290 --> 00:46:36,680
what's written on the side of it and the

1131
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:38,300
promise you see on this image but the

1132
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:41,450
the window wound down and I could

1133
00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:43,970
distinctly tell the people in the car

1134
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:45,350
were looking at us they were staring at

1135
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:46,910
us they pulled up outside his own

1136
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:50,000
building a couple hundred feet away and

1137
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:51,170
they willed it and they were watching us

1138
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:53,260
as we were walking down Ghana Bear Lane

1139
00:46:58,810 --> 00:46:56,720
now these are the gamekeepers supposedly

1140
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,820
try and keep people away from the grass

1141
00:47:04,359 --> 00:47:01,280
or are they are they trying to prevent

1142
00:47:05,950 --> 00:47:04,369
the illegal fishing in that pond or are

1143
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:05,960
they guarding the area for another

1144
00:47:08,620 --> 00:47:06,490
reason

1145
00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:08,630
are these the equipment of the camo

1146
00:47:13,570 --> 00:47:11,020
dudes you get area 51

1147
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:13,580
maybe I mean what's interesting is Nigel

1148
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:15,170
try to make some inquiries with the Land

1149
00:47:20,109 --> 00:47:17,210
Management Agency that looks after this

1150
00:47:22,180 --> 00:47:20,119
particular this particular area now am i

1151
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:22,190
well I was in Birmingham I did this

1152
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:23,690
speech someone will actually know

1153
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:26,090
someone who works for them told me that

1154
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:27,170
they're they're very concerned because

1155
00:47:30,370 --> 00:47:29,060
they they don't need the local

1156
00:47:31,630 --> 00:47:30,380
chancellor won't cover them from the

1157
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:31,640
damages and things like that but when

1158
00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:32,930
you look at the state of the buildings

1159
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:34,940
you wonder why they care at all cuz even

1160
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:36,590
the new building that's that's being

1161
00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:37,850
occupied is it's actually in a pretty

1162
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:40,790
bad state so wonder if there's another

1163
00:47:45,250 --> 00:47:42,410
reason but Nigel actually phoned up the

1164
00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:45,260
Land Management Agency and they

1165
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:46,670
literally put the phone down on him they

1166
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:49,310
were very evasive indeed they would not

1167
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:53,570
discuss it with him he I mean he just

1168
00:47:57,820 --> 00:47:56,270
asked about the 1987 incident and they

1169
00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:57,830
basically just no comment about the

1170
00:48:03,310 --> 00:48:01,460
phone now what's going on there this is

1171
00:48:03,820 --> 00:48:03,320
a beauty spot in not officious the miss

1172
00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:03,830
kills

1173
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:06,920
yes to private land okay it's farms

1174
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:07,710
there

1175
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:14,819
apart from basically these people this

1176
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:16,500
agency no I don't think anyone could

1177
00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:18,930
possibly live in there in the buildings

1178
00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:23,190
they're in too bad a state so we want to

1179
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:24,030
cook what's going on there because

1180
00:48:27,799 --> 00:48:25,440
basically that area is being maintained

1181
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:27,809
with very high security unusually high

1182
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:28,770
security you think

1183
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:33,510
next slide please so this is the corner

1184
00:48:40,849 --> 00:48:38,730
it's Nigel says was around the the

1185
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,859
Warren around the Ansley Hall location

1186
00:48:44,359 --> 00:48:42,720
now this is this was placed exact at the

1187
00:48:46,460 --> 00:48:44,369
same time exactly the same time as the

1188
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:46,470
thieves would cordon because basically

1189
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:47,910
these two events happen together that

1190
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:49,740
the object came down it bounced is

1191
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:51,150
literally just minutes later it came

1192
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:53,609
down as he hauls the two sites were

1193
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:55,650
maintained as the two sites were managed

1194
00:49:01,579 --> 00:48:59,280
concurrently or saw simultaneously by

1195
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:01,589
the government this here you see this

1196
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:04,710
the m1 motorway was working it wasn't it

1197
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:06,410
was open but we assume here that

1198
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:09,089
everything to the east and side of that

1199
00:49:13,849 --> 00:49:11,609
motorway from Junction 27 southwards was

1200
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:13,859
sealed off then you see this we get here

1201
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:15,569
to the bottom of the cordon this here is

1202
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:18,329
hopping on this is a large town just to

1203
00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:19,530
the south of Nottingham

1204
00:49:24,410 --> 00:49:21,589
sorry just sort of north of Nottingham

1205
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:24,420
city of Nabi was just here then you go

1206
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,530
over here there's Lyndon be a small

1207
00:49:28,910 --> 00:49:27,359
village and only sharing here and that

1208
00:49:31,789 --> 00:49:28,920
there is the slip road the slip road day

1209
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:31,799
was shut according to Nigel when that

1210
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:37,260
would that nuclear bunker was sewage

1211
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:40,680
isten became it was about a week but

1212
00:49:44,990 --> 00:49:42,990
this was the case then Gordon's lifted

1213
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:45,000
and people just when people told you to

1214
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:45,920
go back to normal

1215
00:49:51,970 --> 00:49:47,970
move along ladies and gentlemen nothing

1216
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,980
to see here now next slide please mind

1217
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:54,960
mr. photograph I took of a tree in

1218
00:50:01,940 --> 00:49:59,210
thieves wood which is very very young

1219
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:01,950
it's obviously was there at a time you

1220
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:03,510
table the size of it and by looking at

1221
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:06,210
other stumps and counting the rings oh I

1222
00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:07,260
could tell that was a tree that was

1223
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:08,819
there at the time now according to Nigel

1224
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,400
this has suffered damage as a result of

1225
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:13,680
this impact this trees are certainly as

1226
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:16,530
there's a short distance away from where

1227
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:18,410
this object came down

1228
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:20,570
and it suffered damage as a result heat

1229
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:21,770
or heat or radiation

1230
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:24,110
we don't know I mean the only way to

1231
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:25,970
confirm this Nigel said he pointed to

1232
00:50:30,370 --> 00:50:27,530
some marks on the bar and he said look

1233
00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:30,380
that's size like these pink marks on the

1234
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:33,560
bar I think you take an expert or

1235
00:50:38,250 --> 00:50:35,690
dendrology just whether you're cool or a

1236
00:50:41,170 --> 00:50:38,260
woodland expert to actually say for sure

1237
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,180
whether this is that these acts of

1238
00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:43,520
damage caused by kink or by exposure to

1239
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:46,270
electromagnetic radiation but there is

1240
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:49,010
there ISM this is actually being done at

1241
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,110
the moment I am now in the planning

1242
00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:52,640
stages of doing further research into

1243
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:55,030
this if anyone else wants to do it

1244
00:50:58,210 --> 00:50:57,890
the themes would area is open to the

1245
00:50:59,530 --> 00:50:58,220
public

1246
00:51:02,170 --> 00:50:59,540
anyone for going and they can look

1247
00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:02,180
around any time as Lee Hall as I said is

1248
00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:04,760
a completely a no-go zone the feeds

1249
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:06,980
would go in there check it out for

1250
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:07,970
yourself if you like get in there

1251
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:13,310
performing next slide please mines now

1252
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:15,910
there are a number of similarities

1253
00:51:20,980 --> 00:51:19,760
between the nottingham she was well and

1254
00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:20,990
what are the biggest and most

1255
00:51:25,330 --> 00:51:23,060
spectacular you are for events on this

1256
00:51:29,950 --> 00:51:25,340
side of the border the bedouin mountains

1257
00:51:34,090 --> 00:51:29,960
instance for january 1974 is anyone here

1258
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:34,100
not heard of this nobody good this is if

1259
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:35,750
your well she follow gist you can't not

1260
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:38,630
heard of this event large again there's

1261
00:51:45,340 --> 00:51:40,850
some similarities a large exposure loud

1262
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:45,350
noise and shockwave in the area in this

1263
00:51:48,250 --> 00:51:46,760
case it was it was a very very different

1264
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:48,260
kind of location it was in the barren

1265
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:50,690
mountains a remote area of north east

1266
00:51:56,050 --> 00:51:52,550
Wales around the towns of funky flow

1267
00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:56,060
found LFL and that so that is what used

1268
00:52:02,680 --> 00:51:57,320
to be called Chloe doesn't always called

1269
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:02,690
now but Davis is that the loud explosion

1270
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:07,070
loud bang shock wave and then strange

1271
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:10,400
objects been seen it was one object a

1272
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:11,990
large a very large spherical object was

1273
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:14,870
seen on the ground by a witness and then

1274
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:18,800
you also have the presence of the Armed

1275
00:52:24,490 --> 00:52:21,410
Forces and the emergency services again

1276
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:24,500
you have them you have a response

1277
00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:27,530
they're so quick that the government

1278
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:28,670
must have had some

1279
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,630
they must have been informed in some way

1280
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:34,640
that something was gonna happen

1281
00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:36,410
somewhere in that area

1282
00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:38,900
not exactly but they knew closer they

1283
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:40,849
knew roughly where it wasn't at what

1284
00:52:45,339 --> 00:52:43,280
time so they could get people on the

1285
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:45,349
scene within a short space of time again

1286
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:47,710
the response time was less than an hour

1287
00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:51,290
before they actually had this sorted out

1288
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:53,540
and then of course when we don't know of

1289
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,490
any object being the tree there's

1290
00:53:00,430 --> 00:52:57,680
several rather dubious stories going

1291
00:53:01,930 --> 00:53:00,440
around about this that some object was

1292
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,940
crashed in the tree we don't know

1293
00:53:05,319 --> 00:53:03,680
there's no nothing to be sure about that

1294
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:05,329
we know that an object was on the ground

1295
00:53:16,359 --> 00:53:14,020
there was a lot of it there was a lot of

1296
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:16,369
government attention on this particular

1297
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:18,680
area a lot of further a lot of poking

1298
00:53:22,990 --> 00:53:21,530
around but I'm nosing around it's a cell

1299
00:53:24,609 --> 00:53:23,000
researchers a guy called Scott Felton

1300
00:53:27,010 --> 00:53:24,619
who's been looking into this in great

1301
00:53:28,569 --> 00:53:27,020
detail as a new there's a video by

1302
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:28,579
Richard d Hall of rich planet all about

1303
00:53:32,289 --> 00:53:30,200
this you've made a entire documentary

1304
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:32,299
about this very very good indeed there's

1305
00:53:36,099 --> 00:53:34,490
been some disinformation as well even

1306
00:53:41,950 --> 00:53:36,109
knowingly unlearned only several

1307
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:41,960
researchers have actually dissemination

1308
00:53:46,690 --> 00:53:44,210
of false information about this and I

1309
00:53:50,650 --> 00:53:46,700
have taken to task on that did a review

1310
00:53:53,579 --> 00:53:50,660
of the UFO down by Andy Roberts I wasn't

1311
00:53:56,109 --> 00:53:53,589
impressed by it I must own

1312
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:56,119
Andy Roberson dr. Dane Clark they they

1313
00:54:01,569 --> 00:53:58,970
actually in the 14 times they used their

1314
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:01,579
column to call me a nutter in their

1315
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:05,450
little column I think that was thinking

1316
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:07,609
o'clock I was Roberts get his own back I

1317
00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:11,530
think and the next slide please body

1318
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,599
so if decisive physical evidence was

1319
00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:17,359
taken from nottingham Sharat from

1320
00:54:23,170 --> 00:54:21,140
knotting show where was it where did it

1321
00:54:24,789 --> 00:54:23,180
end up well this is probably where they

1322
00:54:26,890 --> 00:54:24,799
would have taken it so this is actually

1323
00:54:30,370 --> 00:54:26,900
gonna he support him down which is like

1324
00:54:33,839 --> 00:54:30,380
a secret laboratory type area run by the

1325
00:54:36,010 --> 00:54:33,849
military in wheelchair essentially

1326
00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:36,020
there's lots of research being done into

1327
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,390
here into the chemical weapons program

1328
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:40,160
when Britain had won

1329
00:54:43,329 --> 00:54:41,510
it still does but doesn't seem or

1330
00:54:45,279 --> 00:54:43,339
secretly also the biological warfare

1331
00:54:46,990 --> 00:54:45,289
program various things to do with

1332
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:47,000
nuclear weapons all this was done

1333
00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:50,770
important down its way and it several

1334
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:53,150
there was there was several spy planes

1335
00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:55,250
as well were the stationed there for a

1336
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:57,740
while - and there's bottom down so

1337
00:55:02,140 --> 00:54:58,970
that's bottom down there bündchen

1338
00:55:04,270 --> 00:55:02,150
airfield which has which is connected to

1339
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:04,280
port and down this is probably where it

1340
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:04,609
went

1341
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:06,470
I mean whether it's still there it's a

1342
00:55:11,799 --> 00:55:08,089
supposing there was like a saucer and

1343
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:11,809
that hangar to quote Nick Pope we don't

1344
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:14,990
know whether it was taken from not iam

1345
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:19,130
sure and taken here and then whether it

1346
00:55:24,190 --> 00:55:20,740
was moved on somewhere else after that

1347
00:55:26,410 --> 00:55:24,200
because Britain like every other country

1348
00:55:30,609 --> 00:55:26,420
seems to obey this global policy of

1349
00:55:33,010 --> 00:55:30,619
crash retrievals and America the United

1350
00:55:34,990 --> 00:55:33,020
States of America seems to be the place

1351
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:35,000
where a lot of this stuff ends up there

1352
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:36,680
are several there are several reports if

1353
00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:37,849
they've had there are two reports of

1354
00:55:41,799 --> 00:55:40,280
other occasions of crashed rebels and

1355
00:55:45,579 --> 00:55:41,809
how many of you know the Virginia

1356
00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:45,589
incidents a Brazil 1996 and so which

1357
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,990
where basically of those crash of craft

1358
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:49,520
there were aliens wandering the streets

1359
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:53,750
in the city the five the fire brigade

1360
00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:55,910
and emergency services took it away it

1361
00:55:58,809 --> 00:55:57,260
was handed over to the army then the

1362
00:56:01,720 --> 00:55:58,819
American sent a plane they sent a team

1363
00:56:03,849 --> 00:56:01,730
in and they took over so it seems the

1364
00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:03,859
Americans are very much in the lead in

1365
00:56:07,779 --> 00:56:05,270
here there was another incident in South

1366
00:56:14,260 --> 00:56:07,789
Africa in 1989 where again the same

1367
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:14,270
thing happened next time please mind hmm

1368
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:18,049
whose play grand theft auto I found this

1369
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:20,390
is it's funny enough I was just I was

1370
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:23,150
just um googling you know UFO crash in

1371
00:56:28,089 --> 00:56:26,510
the city and I've got this this is from

1372
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:28,099
the fifth from the grand theft auto and

1373
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:29,630
I'm not played this game but I might

1374
00:56:34,299 --> 00:56:32,089
actually play it now this grand theft

1375
00:56:35,289 --> 00:56:34,309
auto 5 because just for this just to

1376
00:56:38,740 --> 00:56:35,299
find out a bit more about this

1377
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:38,750
particular shot this is you see here

1378
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,609
there's big flying saucers alien

1379
00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:42,319
spacecraft has come down a busy

1380
00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:45,829
crossroads in a large city now this is

1381
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,900
an important point because the skeptics

1382
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:51,920
listen you know they you know they all

1383
00:56:55,529 --> 00:56:53,049
say don't they

1384
00:56:58,109 --> 00:56:55,539
but how come these UFOs don't crash in

1385
00:57:00,569 --> 00:56:58,119
built-up areas how come it's always the

1386
00:57:02,399 --> 00:57:00,579
devil's armpit Nevada or some other

1387
00:57:05,609 --> 00:57:02,409
crazy place in the desert or remote

1388
00:57:07,889 --> 00:57:05,619
mountain location or something ripped

1389
00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:07,899
island in the middle of the Pacific why

1390
00:57:11,609 --> 00:57:09,339
don't they ever crash in the middle of

1391
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:11,619
cities it's because it's not true isn't

1392
00:57:14,849 --> 00:57:13,630
it because if they crassness in little

1393
00:57:17,219 --> 00:57:14,859
cities I believe you because there may

1394
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:17,229
be evidence but they don't you see so

1395
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:21,130
that means it can't be true well several

1396
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:22,329
problems with that's a particular

1397
00:57:27,989 --> 00:57:25,689
statement firstly some cities let's just

1398
00:57:29,189 --> 00:57:27,999
see what we're looking at here okay you

1399
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:29,199
take into account

1400
00:57:34,979 --> 00:57:32,529
Ryan was book magic eyes only it

1401
00:57:36,179 --> 00:57:34,989
documents a hundred crash retrievals in

1402
00:57:40,349 --> 00:57:36,189
the course of 20th century now

1403
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:40,359
statistically oh that's one per year a

1404
00:57:44,489 --> 00:57:43,119
hundred okay statistically where they

1405
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:44,499
most want you to come down look at the

1406
00:57:48,359 --> 00:57:45,609
Earth's surface okay

1407
00:57:52,589 --> 00:57:48,369
we live in a built-up area we Swansea is

1408
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,599
a large urban area it's tightly large

1409
00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:55,119
populations large multi level buildings

1410
00:58:00,089 --> 00:57:58,630
a busy road networks many many hundreds

1411
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,099
thousands of people in very very close

1412
00:58:04,019 --> 00:58:02,319
proximity to each other it's a large

1413
00:58:07,439 --> 00:58:04,029
it's a it's a tight one urban

1414
00:58:08,849 --> 00:58:07,449
environment but a lot much of the rest

1415
00:58:10,829 --> 00:58:08,859
of Britain is like that and there's many

1416
00:58:13,169 --> 00:58:10,839
many other places like Swansea even

1417
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:13,179
bigger places but how much of the world

1418
00:58:17,579 --> 00:58:15,880
is like that we all seen it from our

1419
00:58:20,099 --> 00:58:17,589
perspective a lot of these skeptics who

1420
00:58:22,249 --> 00:58:20,109
say this loitering is a British I mean

1421
00:58:25,259 --> 00:58:22,259
then living in not a living on an island

1422
00:58:29,219 --> 00:58:25,269
of 255 thousand square miles where

1423
00:58:32,189 --> 00:58:29,229
there's 67 million people crammed in

1424
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:32,199
together most of the world's not like

1425
00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:34,209
that look at look at them and look at a

1426
00:58:39,479 --> 00:58:36,849
population density chart of the earth

1427
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:39,489
right first of all almost 3/4 of the

1428
00:58:46,019 --> 00:58:42,130
world is covered by sea so only only

1429
00:58:47,789 --> 00:58:46,029
just over a quarter of the actual

1430
00:58:50,909 --> 00:58:47,799
surface of the earth is land is dry land

1431
00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:50,919
where people can actually exist of that

1432
00:58:56,279 --> 00:58:52,630
dry land over half of it is almost

1433
00:58:59,459 --> 00:58:56,289
uninhabited its to copy TV to cold was

1434
00:59:03,449 --> 00:58:59,469
too hot it's too dry to mountainous to

1435
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:03,459
mountainous etc etc so over half of that

1436
00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:05,710
remember quarter

1437
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:11,380
is almost entirely uninhabited now all

1438
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:13,510
that remains of the remaining eighth

1439
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:18,430
that's left a lot of bits is you know

1440
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:19,690
you should get like a few people

1441
00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:21,250
per-square-mile as farmland and things

1442
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:22,630
like that are you seeing Nazi on things

1443
00:59:28,349 --> 00:59:26,470
like that in terms of actual type 1

1444
00:59:30,329 --> 00:59:28,359
urban environments like you see here

1445
00:59:32,099 --> 00:59:30,339
you're probably looking at one under a

1446
00:59:35,790 --> 00:59:32,109
percent of the entire Earth's land

1447
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:35,800
surface altogether large cities there

1448
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:37,030
there a lot of people crammed in

1449
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,830
together but they not very common I

1450
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:40,000
think when you take into account the

1451
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:43,990
entire size of the earth now the area

1452
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:47,650
around Nottingham as I said before it

1453
00:59:51,450 --> 00:59:49,900
was the Nottingham conurbation it's a

1454
00:59:55,170 --> 00:59:51,460
patchwork it's a patchwork of arable

1455
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:55,180
fields forestry at that land woods large

1456
01:00:02,940 --> 00:59:59,200
towns and these these crafts did they

1457
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:02,950
came down they thought it was covered up

1458
01:00:08,070 --> 01:00:05,849
I think it was successfully covered up

1459
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:08,080
you could say well what if what if it

1460
01:00:11,339 --> 01:00:09,490
what is the craft haven't landed in

1461
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:11,349
future what if it landed in Nottingham

1462
01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:14,260
city centre what then of course it is

1463
01:00:17,550 --> 01:00:15,790
only a matter of time statistically it

1464
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:17,560
tell you something does come down like

1465
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:20,290
this in another city they wouldn't be

1466
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,480
the cover up then what day would they be

1467
01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:25,440
able to cover up something like this oh

1468
01:00:29,579 --> 01:00:28,150
people the obvious answer is no there'll

1469
01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:29,589
be too many witnesses but let's think

1470
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:32,740
about okay the people behind the truth

1471
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:35,470
embargo a Stephen Bassett calls it have

1472
01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:38,530
enormous levels of resources they have

1473
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,750
all the money they need and they have

1474
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:42,640
the media they control the media they

1475
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,770
control the political figures as well

1476
01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:46,000
the politicians will say whatever

1477
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:50,140
they're told to say now think again in

1478
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:52,270
that situation would they be able to

1479
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:55,119
cover it up or is this an emperor having

1480
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,240
no clothes situation because imagine the

1481
01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:00,160
thousands of people Crowell around this

1482
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:03,550
as soon as soon as it comes down get

1483
01:01:07,710 --> 01:01:05,710
thousands people my god a UFO is just

1484
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:07,720
cut down in another city I'm gonna go

1485
01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:12,810
home and tell the family they go home

1486
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:15,220
switch on the TV and what do they see a

1487
01:01:21,319 --> 01:01:18,400
new story about how are some

1488
01:01:24,269 --> 01:01:21,329
a group of kids played a prank by

1489
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:24,279
inflating an oddly-shaped bouncy castle

1490
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:26,079
at a crossroads it was a flying saucer

1491
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:32,760
sorry about that it was just a big joke

1492
01:01:36,990 --> 01:01:35,710
on their part he confused a lot of

1493
01:01:38,849 --> 01:01:37,000
people for a while but don't right

1494
01:01:40,650 --> 01:01:38,859
ladies and gentlemen there is not really

1495
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,660
a flying saucer crash in the middle of

1496
01:01:44,990 --> 01:01:42,400
the city don't worry it's all been

1497
01:01:47,609 --> 01:01:45,000
sorted out it was just a bouncy castle

1498
01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:47,619
how many people would believe that the

1499
01:01:52,589 --> 01:01:50,440
TV told them that yeah unfortunately a

1500
01:01:54,690 --> 01:01:52,599
lot of people would even in

1501
01:01:57,870 --> 01:01:54,700
contradiction to their own senses and on

1502
01:02:01,710 --> 01:01:57,880
an owned Commission they would set the

1503
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:01,720
cover story the media media broadcast

1504
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:03,250
television newspapers they're designed

1505
01:02:07,529 --> 01:02:05,910
with the help of top-level psychologists

1506
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:07,539
organizations like its Haverstock

1507
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,220
Institute the RAND Corporation a

1508
01:02:14,339 --> 01:02:11,440
Stanford research institution all these

1509
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:14,349
organizations are groups of people who

1510
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:16,329
by their own admission say they want to

1511
01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:17,890
control the world by controlling

1512
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:19,900
people's mind and they consult for all

1513
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:23,049
the major media companies and what's

1514
01:02:27,150 --> 01:02:25,510
more it has happened this this sort well

1515
01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:27,160
something similar to this almost as good

1516
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:28,270
as this has happened it

1517
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:29,980
I mentioned the Virginia incident in

1518
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:34,569
1996 Virginia is a tower it's a large

1519
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:37,930
town in Brazil 100,000 people and a

1520
01:02:42,930 --> 01:02:40,809
craft came now in that area and what's

1521
01:02:44,099 --> 01:02:42,940
more extra trash the little brown aliens

1522
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:44,109
have seen wandering the street at least

1523
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:45,670
two of them was seen wandering the

1524
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:51,520
street yet it was covered up so

1525
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:54,880
therefore I go do I don't think it's

1526
01:02:58,769 --> 01:02:57,250
inconceivable that something like the

1527
01:03:01,529 --> 01:02:58,779
scenario described in Nottingham sure

1528
01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:01,539
1987 could happen and not remain stood I

1529
01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:03,160
think it could easily be roommate secret

1530
01:03:10,589 --> 01:03:04,630
I don't think is reason reason watching

1531
01:03:12,829 --> 01:03:10,599
next one please Mike so what was it

1532
01:03:16,650 --> 01:03:12,839
though and what wasn't it

1533
01:03:20,130 --> 01:03:16,660
now Harry Mason the author of the

1534
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:20,140
article which in Nexus he believes it

1535
01:03:24,359 --> 01:03:22,000
could have been some kind of secret

1536
01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:24,369
weapon that went wrong some kind of

1537
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:28,150
weapons test was being done and if there

1538
01:03:32,609 --> 01:03:30,210
was some big there was some accident

1539
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,619
you may be some directed-energy weapon

1540
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:34,720
that started the fire pause the lights

1541
01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:38,710
in the sky caused the explosion it's

1542
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:40,900
possible it's possible it can't be ruled

1543
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:43,270
out but it's it has to be a very very

1544
01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:45,460
big blunder for this weapon to be tested

1545
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:48,540
somewhere over them English Midlands I

1546
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:51,490
mean this usually these things are

1547
01:03:56,190 --> 01:03:53,200
tested in more remote areas it's

1548
01:03:56,970 --> 01:03:56,200
possible it is possible now Harry Mason

1549
01:04:00,599 --> 01:03:56,980
said it

1550
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:00,609
he also said that it might not be that

1551
01:04:04,550 --> 01:04:02,470
British weapon it might have been Soviet

1552
01:04:06,690 --> 01:04:04,560
it might have been the Soviet Union

1553
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:06,700
initiating even some kind of attack or

1554
01:04:12,510 --> 01:04:09,280
some kind of test on their Cold War

1555
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:12,520
enemy I think that's unlikely

1556
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:16,000
next slide please - did you recognize

1557
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:19,510
this chap it's mikhail gorbachev yes

1558
01:04:26,130 --> 01:04:22,510
he's the eighth and final president of

1559
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:26,140
the Soviet Union now when he came to

1560
01:04:29,609 --> 01:04:27,849
power in a period where the Cold War was

1561
01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:29,619
there was a thawing in the Cold War

1562
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:32,800
anyway but in 1985 when he took power he

1563
01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:34,660
instituted some policies called glasnost

1564
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:36,550
and perestroika openness and

1565
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:39,609
restructuring he wanted to transform the

1566
01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:41,650
Soviet Union which was completely new

1567
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:44,140
kind of society in order to prevent it

1568
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:45,609
from collapsing because he knew very

1569
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:49,210
well he was very shrewd man he knew that

1570
01:04:54,089 --> 01:04:50,530
the Soviet system as it was was

1571
01:04:57,030 --> 01:04:54,099
unsustainable and so he set about

1572
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:57,040
changing the economy and bringing in

1573
01:05:02,160 --> 01:04:58,450
more private enterprise and things like

1574
01:05:03,329 --> 01:05:02,170
that and also making it more making the

1575
01:05:06,750 --> 01:05:03,339
country less closed off to the outside

1576
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:06,760
world he he built bridges with with

1577
01:05:11,970 --> 01:05:09,280
other leaders in in the capitalist West

1578
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:11,980
the old Cold War enemy he was very good

1579
01:05:15,150 --> 01:05:13,510
friends of Margaret Thatcher the British

1580
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:15,160
prime minister he went to a funeral into

1581
01:05:19,050 --> 01:05:16,710
2014

1582
01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:19,060
make friends with Ronald Reagan the US

1583
01:05:24,690 --> 01:05:23,140
president people are and now he really

1584
01:05:28,290 --> 01:05:24,700
he was really looking to end the Cold

1585
01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:28,300
War basically he and Reagan and hid

1586
01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:29,790
their armors wanted to end the Cold War

1587
01:05:35,310 --> 01:05:32,440
now he couldn't say the Soviet Union it

1588
01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:35,320
did collapse in 1991 it was complete

1589
01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:37,630
astounded and the new Russia came out of

1590
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:41,489
it however the idea that

1591
01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:44,079
that he would initiate some kind of as

1592
01:05:51,059 --> 01:05:49,140
an attack against Britain in 1987 is

1593
01:05:52,109 --> 01:05:51,069
completely nonsense school would go

1594
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,119
completely against his political

1595
01:06:00,689 --> 01:05:55,140
strategy if it happened in the 1950s

1596
01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:00,699
when I sixties I could believe it Joseph

1597
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:02,140
Stalin yet he would have done something

1598
01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:06,400
like that not gorgeo is it's just

1599
01:06:10,469 --> 01:06:08,380
doesn't fit in with the geopolitical

1600
01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:10,479
landscape at that time so I don't think

1601
01:06:20,779 --> 01:06:16,329
it was a Soviet weapon at all what does

1602
01:06:23,009 --> 01:06:20,789
that leave so my next slide please so

1603
01:06:25,859 --> 01:06:23,019
we've got to think logically now I love

1604
01:06:29,009 --> 01:06:25,869
logic logic is great skeptics claim to

1605
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:29,019
be logical within fast very very often

1606
01:06:35,579 --> 01:06:30,880
I've done it I presentation on this but

1607
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:35,589
I believe skeptics are very often not

1608
01:06:40,049 --> 01:06:37,690
logical in fact they abandon logic in

1609
01:06:42,599 --> 01:06:40,059
order to maintain their worldview let's

1610
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:42,609
look at it logically if it wasn't some

1611
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:44,650
kind of weapon wasn't the way that

1612
01:06:48,709 --> 01:06:46,930
balloon wasn't thunder what was it

1613
01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:48,719
what's this leave we'd have to consider

1614
01:06:55,410 --> 01:06:52,529
other options next slide please Michael

1615
01:06:58,049 --> 01:06:55,420
why shouldn't it be something

1616
01:06:59,579 --> 01:06:58,059
extraterrestrial I think it's probably

1617
01:07:01,559 --> 01:06:59,589
the most likely at that's the most

1618
01:07:03,180 --> 01:07:01,569
likely scenario based on the evidence

1619
01:07:04,529 --> 01:07:03,190
has been presented to us I think the

1620
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,539
most likely thing that happened was this

1621
01:07:10,709 --> 01:07:06,640
was really what an extraterrestrial

1622
01:07:15,890 --> 01:07:10,719
object intentionally built extra special

1623
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:15,900
object to hit the earth in 1990 1987

1624
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:18,190
there was some kind whatever caused it

1625
01:07:22,229 --> 01:07:19,630
we don't know but some pop [\h__\h] came

1626
01:07:23,579 --> 01:07:22,239
down lots of objects were flying over in

1627
01:07:25,739 --> 01:07:23,589
the sky one of at least one of them can

1628
01:07:26,130 --> 01:07:25,749
now hit the ground got back up into the

1629
01:07:27,749 --> 01:07:26,140
air

1630
01:07:31,289 --> 01:07:27,759
ten down Liana stayed there and it was

1631
01:07:34,259 --> 01:07:31,299
salvaged it was secured located and

1632
01:07:38,059 --> 01:07:34,269
hidden and again the gunmen are keeping

1633
01:07:40,229 --> 01:07:38,069
keeping a lid on it to this day I

1634
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:40,239
hopefully have an update soon to tell

1635
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:41,680
you because I am working on further

1636
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:46,209
projects into this particular case so

1637
01:07:59,420 --> 01:07:54,890
if you love anything to do with UFOs and

1638
01:08:01,790 --> 01:07:59,430
crash retrievals and Exopolitics Roswell

1639
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:01,800
etc Roswell writing a novel of

1640
01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:03,900
disclosure is a novel is a book I've

1641
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,359
written it's a fictional story but it's

1642
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:08,160
all about this kind of thing and you can

1643
01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:10,290
get a copy on there ten pounds it's up

1644
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:13,619
on there next slide please money and the

1645
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:15,480
sequel is good since I came here last

1646
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,370
i've actually published a seat well it's

1647
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:19,199
also on that this story ten pounds

1648
01:08:24,499 --> 01:08:21,150
although if you buy both together you

1649
01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:24,509
can for fifteen so that's this is the

1650
01:08:27,229 --> 01:08:26,100
sequel and then right third one so it's

1651
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,239
gonna be a trilogy so it's gonna be a

1652
01:08:30,620 --> 01:08:29,279
Roswell or disclosure trilogy this is

1653
01:08:32,329 --> 01:08:30,630
was more reveal than world after

1654
01:08:34,670 --> 01:08:32,339
disclosure it talks about this

1655
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,680
possibility so do come pick one up if

1656
01:08:38,959 --> 01:08:36,480
you if you're into this sort of subject

1657
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:38,969
I've also got three copies of Evans land

1658
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:41,880
which is a well steamed book which is my

1659
01:08:46,510 --> 01:08:44,880
first novel that's only five pounds even

1660
01:08:49,729 --> 01:08:46,520
though it's a big big thing like that

1661
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,739
that's whoa thank you very much for

1662
01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:51,120
listening ladies and gentlemen we'll

1663
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:52,710
take a break and then I'll take your

1664
01:08:54,850 --> 01:09:01,870
[Applause]

1665
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:04,670
so please the Ben was able to come back

1666
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:06,089
to us for the third visit can you

1667
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:06,480
believe that

1668
01:09:10,579 --> 01:09:08,580
oh we from Oxford he came up on the

1669
01:09:14,329 --> 01:09:10,589
coach today took the best part of eight

1670
01:09:15,650 --> 01:09:14,339
hours so and especially with the day

1671
01:09:17,150 --> 01:09:15,660
today with the threat of the snow and

1672
01:09:24,170 --> 01:09:17,160
everything that so we give them another

1673
01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:24,180
clap for coming up yeah break don't

1674
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:25,739
disappear come back in for Q&A

1675
01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:27,810
don't forget the box for contributions

1676
01:09:32,420 --> 01:09:29,699
could we gonna please travel expenses

1677
01:09:35,780 --> 01:09:32,430
and you've seen in the B&B tonight so we

1678
01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:35,790
claim for that anybody here not you not

1679
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:39,420
here before first visit all of ya come

1680
01:09:41,809 --> 01:09:40,710
see me over there any minute and I'll

1681
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:41,819
give you some paperwork

1682
01:09:51,730 --> 01:09:45,050
alright okay see you in a bit

1683
01:09:57,140 --> 01:09:55,850
well anyway connected are you talking

1684
01:10:00,530 --> 01:09:57,150
about us

1685
01:10:04,670 --> 01:10:00,540
I don't know what are you talking about

1686
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:04,680
- Gary minute ago he said that there's a

1687
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:06,530
God from New Zealand called Bruce Cathie

1688
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:08,850
who's an airline pilot and he actually

1689
01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:11,490
said that he actually who's worked for

1690
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:13,560
chart in these UFO sightings and their

1691
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:15,510
links the ley lines and he found out

1692
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:18,330
that there's a colonel I feel this

1693
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:20,190
connection they seem to be aware of

1694
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:23,130
these lines and they seem to appear and

1695
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:24,600
people like in the West Country in there

1696
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:26,610
is why stone Antony we've met these are

1697
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:28,290
all the hot spots for UFOs and of course

1698
01:10:32,540 --> 01:10:31,050
for crop circles which the West Country

1699
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:32,550
of England is the world heart and the

1700
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:36,690
crop circles as well so it's possible I

1701
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:38,130
don't know specifically for not seeing I

1702
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:40,620
asked his tailor cousin Eaton and having

1703
01:10:46,810 --> 01:10:43,980
spoken here he's a guy and he's working

1704
01:10:55,090 --> 01:10:46,820
something Pembrokeshire right now

1705
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:57,770
they say no Paul Sinclair's done a bit

1706
01:11:13,850 --> 01:10:59,610
of work on deal entities in truth booths

1707
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:13,860
books yeah the lorry driver told me he

1708
01:11:18,260 --> 01:11:16,050
remembered it it appears as nothing in

1709
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:18,270
the newspaper archives which means he

1710
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:29,730
wasn't covered or material was removed I

1711
01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:43,290
so I'll come back to you

1712
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,050
I sent links to my reports to several

1713
01:12:00,900 --> 01:11:57,040
fire brigade people on forums and things

1714
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:00,910
like that the actual official if you get

1715
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:02,200
something official that to be a

1716
01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:04,030
different matter work maybe the Freedom

1717
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:06,070
of Information Act will actually say

1718
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:07,150
whether or not there was a major

1719
01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:09,280
incident because for that level of

1720
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:11,380
response say you know Fargo they come

1721
01:12:15,450 --> 01:12:13,330
from Bingham which if you look on the

1722
01:12:18,180 --> 01:12:15,460
map is to the east of Natyam that must

1723
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:18,190
have been a major incident court yeah

1724
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:20,470
but it's it's worth doing I'll see what

1725
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:22,510
I can do there you know what that what

1726
01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:24,220
have police said about the road closures

1727
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:29,320
below nothing as I mean as far as I know

1728
01:12:31,470 --> 01:12:30,610
I thought what they said at the time I

1729
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:31,480
know

1730
01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:35,110
traffic was reroute it but so that I

1731
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:36,760
said of massive traffic jams around but

1732
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:39,130
if as far as I know there was no

1733
01:12:44,570 --> 01:12:42,880
official report about why that was so

1734
01:12:46,770 --> 01:12:44,580
ambulance to come back to you now again

1735
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:46,780
it happened about two o'clock in the

1736
01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:50,080
morning yes how much one we believe the

1737
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:51,400
explosion was you how many they weren't

1738
01:12:58,170 --> 01:12:53,410
that many eyewitnesses but if there was

1739
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,180
a shockwave or some sort of tremor some

1740
01:13:00,990 --> 01:12:59,920
people must could have gone upside the

1741
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:01,000
house to see what that was and they

1742
01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:02,170
might have seen something

1743
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:04,150
well I did today there was people the

1744
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:06,190
people who boasted people did rush

1745
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:07,510
Harrington Street say what's going on

1746
01:13:13,230 --> 01:13:09,430
they looked up and they saw lights in

1747
01:13:15,210 --> 01:13:13,240
the sky so yeah absolutely they will

1748
01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:15,220
who's the explosion shockwave there are

1749
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:16,390
actually more witnesses and you get

1750
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:18,790
otherwise I've been actively trying to

1751
01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:20,920
find witnesses you know give your money

1752
01:13:29,310 --> 01:13:22,750
either come forward before we do putting

1753
01:13:31,050 --> 01:13:29,320
up the posters on the Facebook know

1754
01:13:33,450 --> 01:13:31,060
there's a lot of little community groups

1755
01:13:35,130 --> 01:13:33,460
have got like a local hub you know where

1756
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:35,140
mmm people talk about different things

1757
01:13:41,610 --> 01:13:37,420
to do with over there Joe ever spoke of

1758
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:41,620
paper locals I lasted Facebook groups

1759
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:43,180
they are you just took a post up I think

1760
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:45,130
and we found that yeah we researching

1761
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:47,350
the pentateuch event and kind of food

1762
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:48,910
people all right it creates a lot of

1763
01:13:55,489 --> 01:13:51,010
trolls and other people making fun but

1764
01:13:57,319 --> 01:13:55,499
you do get quite food remember

1765
01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:57,329
I'll ask what that because I mean my

1766
01:14:01,879 --> 01:13:59,489
fortune I'm not I've split up with Sue

1767
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:01,889
my partner in the area so ever be able

1768
01:14:05,660 --> 01:14:03,360
to visit her I don't have a base of

1769
01:14:06,979 --> 01:14:05,670
operations there anymore but I'm

1770
01:14:08,890 --> 01:14:06,989
thinking of taking another trip up there

1771
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:08,900
meeting up with Nigel and Dan and

1772
01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:10,800
because I know they've been doing a lot

1773
01:14:15,049 --> 01:14:12,030
of work in my absence they've been

1774
01:14:16,549 --> 01:14:15,059
they've been putting on posters on on

1775
01:14:19,069 --> 01:14:16,559
telegraph poles and things I asked you

1776
01:14:21,259 --> 01:14:19,079
for information they've not fun a few

1777
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:21,269
more doors I mean we did the only person

1778
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:22,800
we spoke to in the area at that time

1779
01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:31,679
didn't remember anything as a promise is

1780
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:33,960
this is a this is a commonly recurring

1781
01:14:40,549 --> 01:14:37,650
curse of UFO research the tide the time

1782
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:40,559
between when something happens Oh an

1783
01:14:46,270 --> 01:14:42,210
investigation begins in the case of

1784
01:14:48,290 --> 01:14:46,280
Roswell it's 31 years when you know when

1785
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:48,300
Jesse met Stan and they did the

1786
01:14:54,430 --> 01:14:49,530
beginning of you and then led to the

1787
01:14:58,819 --> 01:14:56,919
there's a problem meaning case of I

1788
01:15:00,799 --> 01:14:58,829
think it was Jim Marrs

1789
01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:00,809
actually the late great Jim Marcy start

1790
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:02,670
researching the Aurora incident in the

1791
01:15:07,580 --> 01:15:05,489
70s and by that time this is an event

1792
01:15:09,020 --> 01:15:07,590
that happened in 1897 but that time many

1793
01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:09,030
people look around whether people have

1794
01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:14,280
been children at the time was dead this

1795
01:15:17,839 --> 01:15:15,780
is showing good I think you're covered

1796
01:15:20,209 --> 01:15:17,849
up and then years later then you get one

1797
01:15:22,009 --> 01:15:20,219
person coming forward and wrapping yeah

1798
01:15:25,489 --> 01:15:22,019
there's so many crash retrievals which

1799
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:25,499
have gotten unknown it can yeah the

1800
01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:27,449
problem then is which ones are real and

1801
01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:29,400
which ones are just fighting and this is

1802
01:15:32,689 --> 01:15:31,409
this is a big problem and the exception

1803
01:15:34,669 --> 01:15:32,699
is random to forests relative course

1804
01:15:36,549 --> 01:15:34,679
luckily thanks to the whistleblowers

1805
01:15:40,189 --> 01:15:36,559
Mary Warren and the other whistleblowers

1806
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:40,199
by 1983 we all knew it happened and so

1807
01:16:02,090 --> 01:15:59,030
well that's all yeah but then there's a

1808
01:16:04,330 --> 01:16:02,100
lot of talk about this I mean Steve

1809
01:16:07,070 --> 01:16:04,340
Bassett the disclosure project and

1810
01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:07,080
Steven Greer and paradigm research group

1811
01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:09,150
these people are campaigning their lobby

1812
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:11,400
groups campaigning for willingness

1813
01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:16,050
closure from the government and we've I

1814
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:17,670
think there was a lot of talk about

1815
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:20,640
Obama being the disclosure president and

1816
01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:22,530
that he something would happen in his

1817
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:26,790
term this didn't come to pass now the

1818
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:28,290
whole issue with willing disclosure is

1819
01:16:32,450 --> 01:16:29,490
something I've very divided over

1820
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:32,460
internally because now there's a part of

1821
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:33,770
me that thinks it's not possible

1822
01:16:40,490 --> 01:16:38,250
it's the implications of the fact that

1823
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:40,500
they the implications of them the fact

1824
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:45,090
they lied for so long and the other

1825
01:16:48,710 --> 01:16:47,310
things associated with free energy and

1826
01:16:53,330 --> 01:16:48,720
out of gravity and things like that the

1827
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:53,340
technology to actually not only admit

1828
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:56,370
that it's there and undo whatever policy

1829
01:17:00,050 --> 01:16:58,170
that existed in place which the whole

1830
01:17:01,850 --> 01:17:00,060
world has been united the whole world in

1831
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:01,860
the elite circles has been united behind

1832
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:03,450
they've been absolutely unequivocal

1833
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:05,010
they've been very very consistent in

1834
01:17:11,540 --> 01:17:07,290
their policy towards this subject for a

1835
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:11,550
century more or more than a century to

1836
01:17:16,460 --> 01:17:13,680
undo that and then also admit that they

1837
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:16,470
lied about it when they could have

1838
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:17,970
actually come clean in the beginning and

1839
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:20,370
then think how different the world would

1840
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:23,190
have been well my thought was well

1841
01:17:28,670 --> 01:17:26,010
arising was well revealed these books

1842
01:17:30,290 --> 01:17:28,680
which discussed this issue that's why I

1843
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:30,300
wrote those books because I wanted to I

1844
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:32,100
want to explore a fictional scenario in

1845
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:38,010
which things were different and it would

1846
01:17:41,330 --> 01:17:39,360
be more different we can imagine a me

1847
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,340
for instance free energy antigravity

1848
01:17:44,810 --> 01:17:43,440
things like that talking about an end to

1849
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:44,820
poverty and then to environmental

1850
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:48,210
destruction etc etc you know a lot of

1851
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:50,130
explaining to them so maybe this is kind

1852
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:51,510
of one moment I'll be with you in a sec

1853
01:17:57,370 --> 01:17:55,380
but yeah what maybe they just they just

1854
01:17:59,620 --> 01:17:57,380
did it digging their heels in the hole

1855
01:18:01,149 --> 01:17:59,630
because it's just it's a hole they can't

1856
01:18:02,350 --> 01:18:01,159
dig out of it's that the political

1857
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,360
structures of this world don't have the

1858
01:18:07,060 --> 01:18:04,400
capacity to absorb a revelation of that

1859
01:18:10,209 --> 01:18:07,070
magnitude so just going to ask about the

1860
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:10,219
fires and any potential sort of like

1861
01:18:23,470 --> 01:18:13,520
smoking with smoke because when happened

1862
01:18:26,110 --> 01:18:23,480
there were people not to my knowledge no

1863
01:18:27,550 --> 01:18:26,120
I mean the Pentek incident is like

1864
01:18:29,620 --> 01:18:27,560
really interesting because my cure it

1865
01:18:31,060 --> 01:18:29,630
see we've been talking about it in the

1866
01:18:31,870 --> 01:18:31,070
break and it's there's so many

1867
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:31,880
similarities

1868
01:18:39,070 --> 01:18:34,130
I've been talking to Kaz and other

1869
01:18:40,450 --> 01:18:39,080
people looking into it you not only have

1870
01:18:55,649 --> 01:18:40,460
a strange event but you have like the

1871
01:19:05,379 --> 01:19:03,430
online all the police just a weather

1872
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:05,389
balloon is backfilling there it's the

1873
01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:07,250
entire you can always get your

1874
01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:08,900
disinformation in afterwards if you need

1875
01:19:12,250 --> 01:19:10,790
to know if you don't have to you don't

1876
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:12,260
have to put in beforehand if you know

1877
01:19:15,580 --> 01:19:13,489
what you're doing if you control the

1878
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:15,590
media as I explained in my talk I think

1879
01:19:52,230 --> 01:19:23,600
they were controlling the burning inside

1880
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:55,510
for sure yeah the core will then go out

1881
01:19:58,030 --> 01:19:57,530
there was Photoshop you can't win that's

1882
01:19:59,580 --> 01:19:58,040
the problem

1883
01:20:02,200 --> 01:19:59,590
you can't win with photographic evidence

1884
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:02,210
if you either people a lot of skeptical

1885
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:04,250
said because a lot of UFO footage I

1886
01:20:07,450 --> 01:20:05,840
thought she's very poor quality someone

1887
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:07,460
with a very shaky hand cuz they're

1888
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:09,290
excited pointing their mobile iPhone at

1889
01:20:12,820 --> 01:20:10,610
the sky and you see this look you just

1890
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:12,830
see the light going around can you see

1891
01:20:16,420 --> 01:20:14,690
it oh goodness me it's like it's just

1892
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,430
above my head can you see that everybody

1893
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:18,320
look about in everyone get your bonus

1894
01:20:21,610 --> 01:20:20,450
straight away of the shock I think

1895
01:20:22,810 --> 01:20:21,620
instead it's getting saying that could

1896
01:20:24,490 --> 01:20:22,820
be anything you know well then of course

1897
01:20:27,610 --> 01:20:24,500
something really really good happens now

1898
01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:27,620
say photoshopped that could be faked and

1899
01:20:32,500 --> 01:20:31,070
a fortunate in this day and age when

1900
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:32,510
someone says that could be fates they

1901
01:20:36,850 --> 01:20:34,610
could be right because anything could be

1902
01:20:38,410 --> 01:20:36,860
faked these days that's what it's a sad

1903
01:20:39,610 --> 01:20:38,420
fact that photographic evidence doesn't

1904
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:39,620
carry the same way it used to

1905
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:43,130
it's a shame but so it's showing that he

1906
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:44,960
did in this scenario there probably

1907
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:47,330
would be a lot of people who save us

1908
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,040
fake the people taking this shot Swiss

1909
01:20:54,670 --> 01:20:51,440
police say no wasn't honestly but when

1910
01:20:58,780 --> 01:20:54,680
they realize how incredible is against

1911
01:21:08,350 --> 01:20:58,790
them they may want just they just give

1912
01:21:13,759 --> 01:21:11,569
vanilla yeah yeah that was some mark oli

1913
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:13,769
looked into her he was a thank you -

1914
01:21:17,540 --> 01:21:16,170
yeah Dorian it's funny because I

1915
01:21:19,129 --> 01:21:17,550
actually come from that area I may not

1916
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:19,139
sound like it but I'm actually a taffy

1917
01:21:26,089 --> 01:21:22,530
just like you um I am believe it or not

1918
01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:26,099
I'm done yeah that's a mark only did a

1919
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:27,719
documentary for get on YouTube I've got

1920
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:30,570
the DVD of it there's some kind of

1921
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:32,190
saintly baby won't be something wrong

1922
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:34,050
sure make some some point experiment

1923
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:37,650
cause there's piece of it yeah which she

1924
01:21:41,450 --> 01:21:39,900
owns which it's clearly a part of some

1925
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:41,460
kind of aircraft it's like stealth

1926
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:43,409
material it's like made absorbent

1927
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:45,210
material it's music maybe a mattress

1928
01:21:57,410 --> 01:21:56,730
some people recovered some of this

1929
01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:57,420
material

1930
01:22:00,620 --> 01:21:59,250
have you made he turned it into a

1931
01:22:03,379 --> 01:22:00,630
hundred key rings and he sent the bill

1932
01:22:06,049 --> 01:22:03,389
different people haha to preserve them

1933
01:22:07,850 --> 01:22:06,059
so they wouldn't get recovered or taken

1934
01:22:08,930 --> 01:22:07,860
from him that's actually not a bad idea

1935
01:22:10,609 --> 01:22:08,940
they opened a government he lives in

1936
01:22:12,140 --> 01:22:10,619
North Wales in the imago phrase a we're

1937
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:12,150
open to go up to see him soon they said

1938
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:14,280
we can have one of them oh good yeah all

1939
01:22:18,709 --> 01:22:17,489
right that's not a bad idea I see Becky

1940
01:22:36,919 --> 01:22:18,719
coming down and getting getting

1941
01:22:39,500 --> 01:22:36,929
distributed yeah oh right oh um the

1942
01:22:42,410 --> 01:22:39,510
woman yeah mrs. Rustenburg mrs. first

1943
01:22:44,509 --> 01:22:42,420
name was that not to mention I know

1944
01:22:46,669 --> 01:22:44,519
she's this lady who was a who lived in a

1945
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:46,679
country houses she was interviewed in a

1946
01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:49,289
program in there was very good interview

1947
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:52,040
with her Oliver on old TV show and

1948
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,210
[Music]

1949
01:22:57,470 --> 01:22:55,199
you've listened to what she's saying

1950
01:23:00,680 --> 01:22:57,480
about the craft land he came now right

1951
01:23:02,180 --> 01:23:00,690
on the roof of her house and these are

1952
01:23:03,379 --> 01:23:02,190
Nordic aliens were inside it and she

1953
01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:03,389
looked and she saw his like Nordic

1954
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:09,239
aliens yeah and then I mean she where

1955
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:11,120
she talks about it it's just like

1956
01:23:18,010 --> 01:23:14,510
I know several people of to hurry a few

1957
01:23:20,260 --> 01:23:18,020
people who are good at analyzing laugh

1958
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:20,270
it's lies you're detecting lies and

1959
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:21,290
things like that and detecting when

1960
01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:22,490
people I think things up they she knows

1961
01:23:26,530 --> 01:23:23,270
she's telling the truth

1962
01:23:28,750 --> 01:23:26,540
I changed she's kept her story all her

1963
01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:28,760
life she kept the same story there's

1964
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:30,380
other more recent interview for her can

1965
01:23:34,570 --> 01:23:32,210
she died a couple years ago but she

1966
01:23:42,610 --> 01:23:34,580
never changed her story never not once

1967
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:42,620
that's an amazing case Carrie did they

1968
01:23:47,290 --> 01:23:43,730
suggest that it looked like it was

1969
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:47,300
struggling yeah somebody called in a

1970
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:48,890
Harry Mason's people report and they

1971
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:50,000
said it looked like an aircraft in

1972
01:23:52,990 --> 01:23:50,890
trouble

1973
01:23:55,210 --> 01:23:53,000
they thought he was making noises that I

1974
01:23:57,130 --> 01:23:55,220
mean I don't know whether imitating the

1975
01:23:58,900 --> 01:23:57,140
sound or like a whining sound you see in

1976
01:24:04,630 --> 01:23:58,910
Hollywood movies when he can get an

1977
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:04,640
aircraft about to crash but yes they did

1978
01:24:08,620 --> 01:24:06,050
mention they said they thought someone

1979
01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:08,630
was in trouble which is interesting I

1980
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:10,430
think I mean whether that was just

1981
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:13,040
something that occurred to them or care

1982
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:19,970
to Harry Mason well there was a theory

1983
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:22,930
that they the radar was affecting their

1984
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:25,280
navigation systems or something oh well

1985
01:24:30,730 --> 01:24:27,530
there's a lot of it yeah I mean radar

1986
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:30,740
means these things people have to sell

1987
01:24:33,490 --> 01:24:31,610
they shoot them now

1988
01:24:36,010 --> 01:24:33,500
well there are a course of combat

1989
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:36,020
between UFOs and humans but almost

1990
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:37,850
invariably the humans come out worse off

1991
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:41,450
and many many situations of where for

1992
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:44,450
instance some a UFO will disable an

1993
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:46,730
aircraft's computer system before it can

1994
01:24:52,420 --> 01:24:49,310
launches missiles this happened to

1995
01:25:05,530 --> 01:24:52,430
Parviz Jafari in iran in 1976 it

1996
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:05,540
happened to in 9:57 to know that he's a

1997
01:25:09,850 --> 01:25:07,850
good example of a guy who crashes paying

1998
01:25:13,630 --> 01:25:09,860
off he was chasing you or phobia but

1999
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,640
basically and it's that they are there

2000
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:15,920
were some reports people say well a lot

2001
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:17,010
of these crashes happen

2002
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:19,650
this radar New Mexico was the only place

2003
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:21,420
with his high-powered Raider also

2004
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:23,880
thunderstorms thunderstorms are often

2005
01:25:28,970 --> 01:25:26,639
associated crash retrievals now the

2006
01:25:30,859 --> 01:25:28,980
weather for the weather reports for that

2007
01:25:33,649 --> 01:25:30,869
night in 1987

2008
01:25:34,250 --> 01:25:33,659
clear skies no wind it was not a

2009
01:25:36,890 --> 01:25:34,260
thunderstorm

2010
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:36,900
associated with Roswell it was last

2011
01:25:43,899 --> 01:25:39,480
under storms around the time that the

2012
01:25:52,509 --> 01:25:49,729
12th of November but also inviting

2013
01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:52,519
there's thunderstorms it maybe that's

2014
01:25:56,810 --> 01:25:54,750
electrical activity or energy in the

2015
01:26:01,209 --> 01:25:56,820
atmosphere so adversely affects these

2016
01:26:04,220 --> 01:26:01,219
craft the big hurricane was in 87 but

2017
01:26:06,799 --> 01:26:04,230
well it's funny only was it October

2018
01:26:09,049 --> 01:26:06,809
wanted like a fish loss Facebook yeah

2019
01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:09,059
that's right actually he's funny

2020
01:26:15,229 --> 01:26:10,440
wouldn't it was just it was literally

2021
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:15,239
just dumb it was literally just a month

2022
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:18,710
after that with the great storm yeah

2023
01:26:24,770 --> 01:26:22,530
great sausage very strange thing

2024
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:24,780
happened yeah is he said Oh some people

2025
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:26,070
say that hurricane coming don't worry is

2026
01:26:38,959 --> 01:26:36,449
not Dan said Daniel Bostock he said oh I

2027
01:26:40,250 --> 01:26:38,969
I heard a story about how I remember

2028
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:40,260
them saying helicopter crash in the

2029
01:26:45,290 --> 01:26:43,110
woods now that's not been confirmed

2030
01:26:45,770 --> 01:26:45,300
there's no way to confirm it off all

2031
01:26:54,180 --> 01:26:45,780
these years

2032
01:26:59,100 --> 01:26:56,959
that crashed in the Shopville incident a

2033
01:27:00,900 --> 01:26:59,110
military helicopter was forced to make a

2034
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:00,910
landing they're going to assisted to see

2035
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:02,620
more evidence that they're dealing with

2036
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:04,930
something yeah if that story to be

2037
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:06,610
confirmed it was very interesting indeed

2038
01:27:12,060 --> 01:27:08,800
at one though this helicopter all the

2039
01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:12,070
Pinto favorably the helicopter in 9700

2040
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:14,230
whether that could be confirmed as a new

2041
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:16,210
story that's released because as far as

2042
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:17,770
we know there's no need no official news

2043
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:19,570
stories or at least to explain this

2044
01:27:25,709 --> 01:27:21,250
diversion of traffic the closure of the

2045
01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:25,719
a60 do you need I'm not imagine people

2046
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:29,020
ask lots of questions if that was going

2047
01:27:32,370 --> 01:27:30,310
on I mean this guy oh I bet it was a

2048
01:27:33,630 --> 01:27:32,380
lorry driver told me he was baffling to

2049
01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:33,640
him he don't really remember why I

2050
01:27:35,670 --> 01:27:34,270
happened

2051
01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:35,680
he's remembers being stuck in a traffic

2052
01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:38,440
jam for hours they presumably the

2053
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:40,600
Forestry Commission must have had some

2054
01:27:45,420 --> 01:27:43,570
sort of communication from the MFD hmm

2055
01:27:47,130 --> 01:27:45,430
today they must be some kind of

2056
01:27:48,810 --> 01:27:47,140
explanation but something must be said

2057
01:27:55,770 --> 01:27:48,820
to them to explain why it's obviously

2058
01:27:58,860 --> 01:27:55,780
they wouldn't tell them or they need

2059
01:28:00,420 --> 01:27:58,870
some kind of story and there's nothing

2060
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:00,430
because there's nothing that Nigel would

2061
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:03,730
find in the archives in the papers it's

2062
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,290
just this one from the Nick Pope and the

2063
01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:07,840
mo D so we know that seems to be based

2064
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:09,400
on our faith listen to see what the

2065
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:10,810
Forestry Commission we were told about

2066
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:12,570
you the MRD

2067
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:16,320
maybe probably get in the foyer maybe

2068
01:28:25,470 --> 01:28:19,570
it's because they went in there and

2069
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:25,480
removed all the sound yeah it was you

2070
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:26,770
need to bring a lot of sand in to cover

2071
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:28,930
the areas 300 feet by six iron it took

2072
01:28:32,820 --> 01:28:30,370
six to nine inches of top starts you

2073
01:28:35,670 --> 01:28:32,830
need many tons of sand or clay whatever

2074
01:28:37,979 --> 01:28:35,680
they used where did they take the tops

2075
01:28:51,979 --> 01:28:37,989
of exactly they were had to take that

2076
01:28:58,890 --> 01:28:56,430
yeah although some kind of there's some

2077
01:29:02,610 --> 01:28:58,900
kind of dip you remember um Richard

2078
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:02,620
Richard II Hall discovered it a great

2079
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:09,010
big like depression yeah if that could

2080
01:29:21,180 --> 01:29:11,199
have been it yeah that's what it says

2081
01:29:23,580 --> 01:29:21,190
something could have been that landing

2082
01:29:25,140 --> 01:29:23,590
or the craft we know was the craft ping

2083
01:29:27,660 --> 01:29:25,150
down in the area is being triangulated

2084
01:29:31,729 --> 01:29:27,670
from two witnesses for where the fact

2085
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:31,739
actually landed Pat Evans the nurse

2086
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:35,370
house nearby saw it

2087
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:37,480
I've been to the road I've been up the

2088
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:40,090
road the pass through the bear winds to

2089
01:29:44,490 --> 01:29:41,410
which had Evans took them you can

2090
01:29:48,020 --> 01:29:44,500
actually stopped me to see across to had

2091
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:48,030
a Kenny better win where this craft was

2092
01:29:52,020 --> 01:29:50,290
several people when I'm looking on had a

2093
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:52,030
drama and she's and this is the next

2094
01:29:58,590 --> 01:29:54,130
mountain along and there was some

2095
01:30:01,260 --> 01:29:58,600
confusion over these two mountains which

2096
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:01,270
I think has been extensively used help

2097
01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:04,090
to muddy the waters my butt right it was

2098
01:30:09,959 --> 01:30:07,870
a political Kevin cork further so yes

2099
01:30:13,950 --> 01:30:09,969
yeah that's Richard mentioned the

2100
01:30:17,189 --> 01:30:13,960
interviews marker in his proper work

2101
01:30:18,990 --> 01:30:17,199
with her yes yes she said she found some

2102
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:19,000
witnesses to say they landed at Kevin :

2103
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:20,800
yeah I reckon on her but she work I

2104
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:22,510
think she might mention her book she's

2105
01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:23,830
written a very very good book nobody

2106
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:25,510
gonna move place named Welsh place

2107
01:30:30,750 --> 01:30:27,570
plantation she was on an interview with

2108
01:30:36,810 --> 01:30:30,760
Gary morning and I couldn't work out

2109
01:30:37,999 --> 01:30:36,820
what she said but she English lady she

2110
01:30:39,809 --> 01:30:38,009
may mispronounced the word

2111
01:30:44,549 --> 01:30:39,819
but there was a place booked Kevin

2112
01:30:47,969 --> 01:30:44,559
coffee near there but her book is she is

2113
01:30:49,409 --> 01:30:47,979
good market book she mentioned that in

2114
01:30:50,939 --> 01:30:49,419
there she just she talks about our

2115
01:30:53,489 --> 01:30:50,949
landing of a craft that she witnessed

2116
01:30:55,409 --> 01:30:53,499
herself in East London oh yeah yeah in

2117
01:30:56,609 --> 01:30:55,419
in Bexar he was now part well it used to

2118
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:56,619
be part of Kent it's now part of East

2119
01:30:59,789 --> 01:30:58,449
London and I've been to that have been

2120
01:31:01,199 --> 01:30:59,799
to that location I knocked on a few

2121
01:31:04,679 --> 01:31:01,209
doors but no one's sort of knew anything

2122
01:31:08,099 --> 01:31:04,689
about it this was in 1955 a long time

2123
01:31:09,809 --> 01:31:08,109
ago hot summer's day 955 well it came

2124
01:31:11,819 --> 01:31:09,819
down in the middle of a crossroads in a

2125
01:31:16,729 --> 01:31:11,829
residential area Street and a second one

2126
01:31:18,899 --> 01:31:16,739
landed near a school nearby very odd

2127
01:31:20,579 --> 01:31:18,909
there must have been really must have

2128
01:31:47,879 --> 01:31:20,589
because look this will warm Sunday

2129
01:31:50,879 --> 01:31:47,889
afternoon there are people who are

2130
01:31:55,129 --> 01:31:50,889
strange objects in their body I'm one of

2131
01:31:57,509 --> 01:31:55,139
them I've got one in my left arm and I

2132
01:31:59,399 --> 01:31:57,519
don't know how but no memories of an

2133
01:32:02,099 --> 01:31:59,409
experience would lead me to to believe

2134
01:32:03,929 --> 01:32:02,109
something that scared I got scammed from

2135
01:32:07,079 --> 01:32:03,939
somebody and I was quite surprised my

2136
01:32:08,339 --> 01:32:07,089
find out something's in there sorry I'm

2137
01:32:14,929 --> 01:32:08,349
just gonna ask how you know it was in

2138
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:14,939
there health effects of like implants or

2139
01:32:21,189 --> 01:32:18,550
some kind of abduction scenario with

2140
01:32:22,630 --> 01:32:21,199
yeah these ones you found a sailor

2141
01:32:29,530 --> 01:32:22,640
inside them and it's there been any sort

2142
01:32:31,660 --> 01:32:29,540
of no but a mark on my arm I know people

2143
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:31,670
who have many many more implants inside

2144
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,110
them I know people have got them in

2145
01:32:39,010 --> 01:32:35,360
their pets inside their heads inside

2146
01:32:40,090 --> 01:32:39,020
their hands and they have it does affect

2147
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:40,100
their health it does affect their mental

2148
01:32:45,130 --> 01:32:44,030
or physical health but these these are

2149
01:32:47,290 --> 01:32:45,140
often associated with abduction

2150
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:47,300
experiences these these objects when

2151
01:32:51,070 --> 01:32:49,130
they're removed because they could be

2152
01:32:53,050 --> 01:32:51,080
removed surgically there's several

2153
01:32:56,650 --> 01:32:53,060
strange things are associated with that

2154
01:32:58,419 --> 01:32:56,660
firstly the objects don't look like any

2155
01:33:00,610 --> 01:32:58,429
type of electronic device that we know

2156
01:33:02,110 --> 01:33:00,620
they seem to be made of metal a couple

2157
01:33:03,820 --> 01:33:02,120
of some kind of ceramics usually with

2158
01:33:05,979 --> 01:33:03,830
the ceramic outer layer of some kind is

2159
01:33:09,370 --> 01:33:05,989
not often able to identify it can't be

2160
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:09,380
identified and also what happens is

2161
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:12,110
after the surgery very often the object

2162
01:33:16,270 --> 01:33:15,110
is replaced by whoever or whatever put

2163
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:16,280
it in there the first time I have a

2164
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:17,600
friend in Oxford who had it

2165
01:33:21,220 --> 01:33:19,250
she had an implant remove from her nose

2166
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:21,230
check to go to Greece to have this done

2167
01:33:25,689 --> 01:33:23,360
had it done privately because the end

2168
01:33:26,979 --> 01:33:25,699
she couldn't go to her GP and saying

2169
01:33:28,540 --> 01:33:26,989
look there's something you might know

2170
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:28,550
space aliens put it there could you

2171
01:33:33,610 --> 01:33:31,130
refer me to x-ray they refer to the

2172
01:33:35,860 --> 01:33:33,620
psychiatric clinic so she had to go

2173
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:35,870
private to UM Prime Minister spent 2,000

2174
01:33:39,580 --> 01:33:37,040
pounds go to Greece and getting this

2175
01:33:41,620 --> 01:33:39,590
thing removed she got she had she had

2176
01:33:43,959 --> 01:33:41,630
x-ray gone she was she knew it was gone

2177
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:43,969
they did check then it was all of it had

2178
01:33:46,510 --> 01:33:44,570
been removed

2179
01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:46,520
they gave it her you know he gave me to

2180
01:33:50,620 --> 01:33:48,080
look at she wanted to keep it but they

2181
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:50,630
let her see it what they take it from

2182
01:33:55,209 --> 01:33:52,810
her body she went home two weeks later

2183
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:55,219
she had an another abduction experience

2184
01:34:00,660 --> 01:33:58,010
she went and got another x-ray there was

2185
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:00,670
another one in there in the same place

2186
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:03,440
so whatever wanted the implant they

2187
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:04,880
wanted if they wanted the implant kept

2188
01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:08,210
there if humans metal and surgeons metal

2189
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:17,280
just another one in there yeah someone

2190
01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:19,020
do yeah maybe move around inside your

2191
01:34:34,060 --> 01:34:23,580
bodies very strange anyone has got

2192
01:34:37,970 --> 01:34:34,070
questions no what happened to what I

2193
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:37,980
would like to UM I'm purist but at the

2194
01:34:44,030 --> 01:34:41,250
same time it might it's it's something

2195
01:34:45,410 --> 01:34:44,040
you can't enter into lightly because I I

2196
01:34:49,940 --> 01:34:45,420
suppose having some fun with him not

2197
01:34:52,940 --> 01:34:49,950
hypnotic regression and that prop the

2198
01:34:55,190 --> 01:34:52,950
prospect of doing that is quite alarming

2199
01:34:57,110 --> 01:34:55,200
it may do more harm than good

2200
01:34:58,960 --> 01:34:57,120
I wouldn't it would be something I want

2201
01:35:02,900 --> 01:34:58,970
to do just to satisfy my curiosity

2202
01:35:05,570 --> 01:35:02,910
because it's it's not harming me at this

2203
01:35:08,570 --> 01:35:05,580
whatever is in my arm assuming it's

2204
01:35:11,050 --> 01:35:08,580
still there it's not it's not affecting

2205
01:35:14,180 --> 01:35:11,060
my life as far as I know

2206
01:35:16,220 --> 01:35:14,190
so I'm maintaining the situation as it

2207
01:35:18,170 --> 01:35:16,230
is I'm leaving it for the time being but

2208
01:35:19,670 --> 01:35:18,180
there may be a time in the future one on

2209
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:19,680
one knows I want to know how it got

2210
01:35:23,780 --> 01:35:21,210
there what happened to me because I

2211
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:23,790
don't have any memory of any experience

2212
01:35:25,310 --> 01:35:24,960
that would lead me to believe this has

2213
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:25,320
happened

2214
01:35:29,540 --> 01:35:27,450
and I don't have any idea how that could

2215
01:35:32,090 --> 01:35:29,550
have happened it's a very very strange

2216
01:35:34,130 --> 01:35:32,100
thing but it's I've got a mark on my eye

2217
01:35:36,860 --> 01:35:34,140
I just mentioned I had this mark on my

2218
01:35:38,750 --> 01:35:36,870
arm looks like a face no need to see it

2219
01:35:40,970 --> 01:35:38,760
from there circular mark with two spots

2220
01:35:43,070 --> 01:35:40,980
in it and someone said I'll go get our

2221
01:35:44,510 --> 01:35:43,080
scan just to be sure it's all right so

2222
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:44,520
once you are someone I know who does

2223
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:46,890
these scans they have an electromagnetic

2224
01:35:51,020 --> 01:35:49,110
field detector the regular frequency

2225
01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:51,030
detector and a metal detector they dated

2226
01:35:54,230 --> 01:35:52,980
all three and they found there was a

2227
01:35:57,140 --> 01:35:54,240
range of frequency pulse coming from

2228
01:35:58,190 --> 01:35:57,150
there also an electromagnetic field it

2229
01:36:04,120 --> 01:35:58,200
was there's nothing on the metal

2230
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:15,110
that's my first note it can be very

2231
01:36:20,450 --> 01:36:17,970
effective it can be very effective I

2232
01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:20,460
know that the sooner on fact I've been

2233
01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:21,840
stuck I've been following the Facebook

2234
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:23,040
group I know a member of this particular

2235
01:36:29,780 --> 01:36:25,770
organization has been involved with that

2236
01:36:32,420 --> 01:36:29,790
kind of thing if it's done properly I

2237
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:32,430
mean is this some some people I would

2238
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:34,800
have to go someone who's trustworthy

2239
01:36:41,900 --> 01:36:37,170
and has a good reputation names that

2240
01:36:44,690 --> 01:36:41,910
come to mind are Mary Rodwell Michael

2241
01:36:46,610 --> 01:36:44,700
Cole Michael Coggins I think these are

2242
01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:46,620
people you can trust to do a good job

2243
01:36:54,620 --> 01:36:48,270
Michael Collins retired now

2244
01:36:57,770 --> 01:36:54,630
Coggins I know people who've had yeah

2245
01:36:59,090 --> 01:36:57,780
you've found quite unpleasant too happy

2246
01:37:03,830 --> 01:36:59,100
reminder these things only Whitley

2247
01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:03,840
Strieber for example he found out what

2248
01:37:09,470 --> 01:37:05,820
happened to him is hypnotic regression

2249
01:37:11,660 --> 01:37:09,480
but he opened a Pandora's box in his

2250
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:11,670
life he knew the truth but the truth

2251
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,690
wasn't very pleasant there Peggy

2252
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:20,400
Barnhill I often called the first

2253
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:22,050
abductees they're not the first they're

2254
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:24,210
the first to go public the first little

2255
01:37:32,090 --> 01:37:27,920
widely publicized and they yeah they I

2256
01:37:33,710 --> 01:37:32,100
actually went to Holford they offer for

2257
01:37:35,540 --> 01:37:33,720
truth magazine comers Kathleen Mardon

2258
01:37:38,890 --> 01:37:35,550
was there who's the niece of Betty hill

2259
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:38,900
and was very close both to Betty and

2260
01:37:44,810 --> 01:37:42,000
Barney she's very close than both and

2261
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,820
she punished she went along is this when

2262
01:37:47,690 --> 01:37:46,560
when this broke out in her family she

2263
01:37:49,550 --> 01:37:47,700
was very much involved

2264
01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:49,560
she's wearing a book called captured

2265
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:51,510
co-author with Stanton Friedman all

2266
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:53,970
about that but there Betty Barney had

2267
01:37:58,460 --> 01:37:57,330
this they had their experience they knew

2268
01:38:00,170 --> 01:37:58,470
somebody enhance and then if something

2269
01:38:01,490 --> 01:38:00,180
got wrong they didn't need hypnotic

2270
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:01,500
regression to cover to recover some of

2271
01:38:08,660 --> 01:38:05,250
the memories but it's it was traumatic

2272
01:38:10,010 --> 01:38:08,670
for them it was changed their life

2273
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:10,020
forever but they never changed their

2274
01:38:15,260 --> 01:38:12,930
story Barney died in 1969 Betty never

2275
01:38:16,170 --> 01:38:15,270
time she died in the late 90s she did an

2276
01:38:18,210 --> 01:38:16,180
interview just before she

2277
01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:18,220
she said exactly the same thing she

2278
01:38:22,710 --> 01:38:21,160
never changed her story never once she

2279
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:22,720
was when she was no lady she was still

2280
01:38:37,290 --> 01:38:34,830
saying the same thing Roswell I mean

2281
01:38:39,090 --> 01:38:37,300
does anyone ever plug planned in Britain

2282
01:38:40,380 --> 01:38:39,100
to do like a disclosure project like

2283
01:38:41,820 --> 01:38:40,390
they didn't matter College is it cause

2284
01:38:45,930 --> 01:38:41,830
because it was Susan more than enough

2285
01:38:47,070 --> 01:38:45,940
good yeah well it seems we sent her on

2286
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:47,080
you know your stakes like everything to

2287
01:38:51,420 --> 01:38:50,080
do with UFOs but Stephen Bassett has

2288
01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:51,430
actually been over in Britain for a few

2289
01:38:55,410 --> 01:38:54,100
months and he's he's coming back and

2290
01:38:57,060 --> 01:38:55,420
he's trying to work with British

2291
01:38:59,820 --> 01:38:57,070
government now he's been very vital he's

2292
01:39:02,610 --> 01:38:59,830
been very very active in Russia on send

2293
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:02,620
David Clarke and I just imagine their

2294
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:05,800
faces cut yet are we worth it I just

2295
01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:08,350
want to see their faces but yeah he's

2296
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:09,460
been in Russia's that I've been getting

2297
01:39:12,090 --> 01:39:10,810
a few were on a major TV challenge

2298
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:12,100
Russia he's trying to get in all the

2299
01:39:27,930 --> 01:39:13,600
audience with President Putin he

2300
01:39:30,330 --> 01:39:27,940
believes that Russia Russia Russia

2301
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:30,340
Russia's actually become in terms of its

2302
01:39:36,210 --> 01:39:32,770
relationship to the globalists he's been

2303
01:39:38,580 --> 01:39:36,220
very very recalcitrant and very very

2304
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,590
disobedient didn't accept the IMF loans

2305
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:40,480
and things like that Putin is actually

2306
01:39:44,730 --> 01:39:42,970
and he's not doing waste told by slots

2307
01:39:46,530 --> 01:39:44,740
at doors and masters so kind of story is

2308
01:39:51,810 --> 01:39:46,540
that Korea like this they know that some

2309
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:51,820
are suggesting yeah it's hard to say

2310
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:53,530
it's hard to say from them or sure but

2311
01:39:56,970 --> 01:39:55,690
the Putin IRS you think either he's if

2312
01:39:58,440 --> 01:39:56,980
there's if there's one head of state

2313
01:39:59,820 --> 01:39:58,450
where she will come clean about all this

2314
01:40:02,160 --> 01:39:59,830
because he must have this knowledge it's

2315
01:40:04,170 --> 01:40:02,170
him I Steve Steve gray Steve working

2316
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:04,180
hard in Russia now he's and he's working

2317
01:40:08,850 --> 01:40:07,090
Britain as well so hopefully you kept

2318
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:08,860
him speaking here I mean he would he's

2319
01:40:15,180 --> 01:40:10,330
he's in this country quite a lot he'd be

2320
01:40:17,130 --> 01:40:15,190
a great guest to speak here he's gonna

2321
01:40:20,060 --> 01:40:17,140
be on my show I've seen not this week

2322
01:40:25,169 --> 01:40:20,070
next week he's good guy like Steve I

2323
01:40:28,419 --> 01:40:25,179
think Steven Bassett I I prefer to

2324
01:40:33,629 --> 01:40:28,429
Greer I think Stephen Basset hold a much

2325
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:36,789
yeah so he's been of a rock star

2326
01:40:41,770 --> 01:40:39,679
welcoming I went I went to an event

2327
01:40:43,059 --> 01:40:41,780
event with Stephen Curry in London and

2328
01:40:45,789 --> 01:40:43,069
it was very expensive very expensive

2329
01:40:47,649 --> 01:40:45,799
event even for central London and you

2330
01:40:50,919 --> 01:40:47,659
get the chance to talk to you know quite

2331
01:41:10,229 --> 01:40:50,929
groupies you know I couldn't get near

2332
01:41:15,099 --> 01:41:10,239
him oh not like he does heart Alerus yes

2333
01:41:18,039 --> 01:41:15,109
that was absolutely hilarious because to

2334
01:41:20,589 --> 01:41:18,049
to the biggest egos in ufology The Clash

2335
01:41:22,449 --> 01:41:20,599
of the Titans is wonderful and I think

2336
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:22,459
the thing is Carrie was right actually I

2337
01:41:27,039 --> 01:41:25,129
think Carrie wasn't always was right in

2338
01:41:29,529 --> 01:41:27,049
what she said to him he he used in like

2339
01:41:31,569 --> 01:41:29,539
his easy right and he just doesn't like

2340
01:41:33,099 --> 01:41:31,579
being contradicted career but it was a

2341
01:41:37,179 --> 01:41:33,109
very very good debate he was really very

2342
01:41:39,069 --> 01:41:37,189
entertaining and but great does

2343
01:41:40,539 --> 01:41:39,079
understudy news talks about the you are

2344
01:41:41,799 --> 01:41:40,549
the alien sees as the aliens of

2345
01:41:44,799 --> 01:41:41,809
benevolence and they're wonderful

2346
01:41:46,959 --> 01:41:44,809
they're all lovely

2347
01:41:48,939 --> 01:41:46,969
well it's only we humans were nasty but

2348
01:41:50,289 --> 01:41:48,949
in fact any aliens well there's more

2349
01:41:51,939 --> 01:41:50,299
than one of them this was there's a

2350
01:41:54,219 --> 01:41:51,949
taxonomy of species that have been

2351
01:41:56,529 --> 01:41:54,229
identified of all kinds and they seem to

2352
01:41:58,659 --> 01:41:56,539
exhibit quite a wide variety of behavior

2353
01:42:00,729 --> 01:41:58,669
and they seem to have a little very very

2354
01:42:03,309 --> 01:42:00,739
different diverging agendas and they're

2355
01:42:04,750 --> 01:42:03,319
not all nice most of them actually seem

2356
01:42:08,539 --> 01:42:04,760
to be quite indifferent and she was

2357
01:42:13,079 --> 01:42:12,359
yeah well Kari wrote a blog that was

2358
01:42:14,939 --> 01:42:13,089
actually pretty good

2359
01:42:18,029 --> 01:42:14,949
yeah vary quite a good criticism with

2360
01:42:20,129 --> 01:42:18,039
Greer I agree I didn't like it we didn't

2361
01:42:21,599 --> 01:42:20,139
like being criticized and so you called

2362
01:42:22,589 --> 01:42:21,609
it a poisonous little Street or

2363
01:42:24,989 --> 01:42:22,599
something like that and I had this big

2364
01:42:27,659 --> 01:42:24,999
debate really great but they do I mean

2365
01:42:29,219 --> 01:42:27,669
Maria is wrong I mean they're not I mean

2366
01:42:30,389 --> 01:42:29,229
the majority of the extraterrestrials

2367
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:30,399
who might gather this evening

2368
01:42:34,889 --> 01:42:33,369
I'd say we're under sort of thumb we

2369
01:42:37,649 --> 01:42:34,899
seem to understand neutral observance

2370
01:42:39,329 --> 01:42:37,659
outside by by these creatures whatever

2371
01:42:41,099 --> 01:42:39,339
they are and there are some that are

2372
01:42:43,619 --> 01:42:41,109
very friendly very loving and this a

2373
01:42:59,879 --> 01:42:43,629
minority luckily seemed to be unpleasant

2374
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:59,889
but he's an excellent writer an

2375
01:43:04,829 --> 01:43:01,679
excellent historian on this subject

2376
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:04,839
Richard Dolan I bet it I've spoken at

2377
01:43:09,299 --> 01:43:07,209
Leeds Exopolitics MC the conference

2378
01:43:10,829 --> 01:43:09,309
where he was speaking and he's written

2379
01:43:14,009 --> 01:43:10,839
some really good books which have great

2380
01:43:15,719 --> 01:43:14,019
historical narratives of the UFO

2381
01:43:17,639 --> 01:43:15,729
phenomena it was it was something he was

2382
01:43:19,699 --> 01:43:17,649
he was Spacely of quite convention

2383
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:19,709
historian for a while trying to Oxford

2384
01:43:26,669 --> 01:43:24,239
and he did a like a module on UFOs

2385
01:43:28,649 --> 01:43:26,679
almost as an aside as part of one of his

2386
01:43:31,709 --> 01:43:28,659
studies and it changed his life

2387
01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:31,719
and he made a career out of it he's been

2388
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:35,169
doing it ever since and he's he's very

2389
01:43:38,609 --> 01:43:36,369
interesting to listen to very

2390
01:43:55,020 --> 01:43:38,619
interesting to read his books and I do

2391
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:00,600
yes yes you certainly put possible to do

2392
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:04,330
that and and of course the lord of

2393
01:44:08,220 --> 01:44:05,890
psychological warfare is about doing

2394
01:44:09,390 --> 01:44:08,230
that very thing and it could be you

2395
01:44:10,740 --> 01:44:09,400
don't need to like get someone on the

2396
01:44:12,450 --> 01:44:10,750
couch and fill them with drugs you could

2397
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:12,460
just control the media as i explaining

2398
01:44:16,940 --> 01:44:14,770
in my talk if you have control of media

2399
01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:16,950
and you know what to say in the media to

2400
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:20,590
to hit the right notes you can make

2401
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:22,090
people believe things they wouldn't

2402
01:44:35,190 --> 01:44:30,700
otherwise believe it's only hip nothing

2403
01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:35,200
hypnotic regression done openly and type

2404
01:44:41,970 --> 01:44:37,480
done by mary rod well she's actually she

2405
01:44:44,820 --> 01:44:41,980
is very very careful not to lead on

2406
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:44,830
witnesses she doesn't she doesn't make

2407
01:44:47,850 --> 01:44:46,540
suggestions and say what you think she

2408
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:47,860
actually waits for them to provide the

2409
01:44:50,670 --> 01:44:48,610
information

2410
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:50,680
I mean her book is really good she's

2411
01:44:54,420 --> 01:44:52,330
ripped two books now there's one poor

2412
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:54,430
contact someone called a new human and

2413
01:44:59,340 --> 01:44:57,130
if she goes into the various cases she's

2414
01:45:03,240 --> 01:44:59,350
been studying and I've interviewed her a

2415
01:45:04,620 --> 01:45:03,250
couple of times and she's very very she

2416
01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:04,630
sounds to be very professional she has a

2417
01:45:07,770 --> 01:45:05,680
nursing background

2418
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:07,780
she's very scientific in our attitude

2419
01:45:13,740 --> 01:45:12,250
and I think if I ever had to have

2420
01:45:26,530 --> 01:45:13,750
something come on she couldn't be with

2421
01:45:26,540 --> 01:47:03,229
yeah yeah

2422
01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:06,690
the audience I went to the famous case

2423
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:13,300
in 57 yeah that's the one that's the

2424
01:47:20,820 --> 01:47:17,170
night must run think yes I saw he was on

2425
01:47:24,060 --> 01:47:20,830
he was in Essex I think that he actually

2426
01:47:35,610 --> 01:47:24,070
took off and he was told to order to fly

2427
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:35,620
before a big raid over to on it it was

2428
01:47:39,570 --> 01:47:37,510
it was a near Renison forest and he and

2429
01:47:44,430 --> 01:47:39,580
again he's playing East which financial

2430
01:47:44,910 --> 01:47:44,440
system to fail yeah and I think his name

2431
01:47:56,490 --> 01:47:44,920
in a minute

2432
01:48:01,400 --> 01:47:56,500
I really well yeah but he he was one of

2433
01:48:03,630 --> 01:48:01,410
the witnesses in 2001 press conference

2434
01:48:06,150 --> 01:48:03,640
and he he basically stood on stage and

2435
01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:06,160
he enormous and tears because he kept

2436
01:48:10,530 --> 01:48:07,120
the secret for so long

2437
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:10,540
building Taurus it would come to me

2438
01:48:15,450 --> 01:48:13,360
eventually over Taurus yeah and there's

2439
01:48:17,460 --> 01:48:15,460
another instance in Iran in another 76

2440
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:17,470
was stopped almost exactly same thing

2441
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:20,890
happened but surround inversion so this

2442
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:22,810
aircraft is set up to intercept across

2443
01:48:28,530 --> 01:48:24,730
Sydney over this close the city to

2444
01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:28,540
wrapped around and he he saw I actually

2445
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:30,640
got visual on this one lots of colored

2446
01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:33,760
lights disc-shaped objects he was told

2447
01:48:38,910 --> 01:48:37,270
to shoot it over fire fire control

2448
01:49:26,219 --> 01:48:38,920
system died and he couldn't he couldn't

2449
01:49:39,069 --> 01:49:36,189
- what do you reckon is anything - it

2450
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:39,079
sounds nice doesn't it however you know

2451
01:49:43,509 --> 01:49:43,130
the evidence is she's real it's there

2452
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:43,519
aren't you

2453
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:45,530
there are children seem to have a very

2454
01:49:49,989 --> 01:49:47,119
very positive interaction than aliens

2455
01:49:51,790 --> 01:49:49,999
who say they want basically to to

2456
01:49:55,899 --> 01:49:51,800
enlighten us on a spiritual intellectual

2457
01:49:57,219 --> 01:49:55,909
level illness and it's I mean I heard if

2458
01:50:01,390 --> 01:49:57,229
I just heard that in some kind of

2459
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:01,400
communion in some forest with guys with

2460
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,010
tie-dye shirt socks laughs but Mary's

2461
01:50:07,989 --> 01:50:05,840
not like that Mary's a scientific person

2462
01:50:10,959 --> 01:50:07,999
this table that I mean one of the ones I

2463
01:50:13,569 --> 01:50:10,969
like for hypnosis is the Laura scan I

2464
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:13,579
mean mmm I like that yeah cuz I like and

2465
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:15,650
she's shown a lot of things over the

2466
01:50:18,910 --> 01:50:17,570
years you rather convoluted universe I

2467
01:50:22,569 --> 01:50:18,920
haven't read that one only the three

2468
01:50:25,469 --> 01:50:22,579
ways one right - especially is very good

2469
01:50:28,299 --> 01:50:25,479
it's just you know it seems very water

2470
01:50:30,509 --> 01:50:28,309
ideation kind of filling in the gaps

2471
01:50:32,919 --> 01:50:30,519
with very similar yeah when they both

2472
01:50:34,209 --> 01:50:32,929
Dolores has now passed away but her

2473
01:50:36,459 --> 01:50:34,219
books because she would actually take

2474
01:50:38,169 --> 01:50:36,469
food actually she wouldn't jump into

2475
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:38,179
trances and a trance medium to you that

2476
01:50:43,089 --> 01:50:40,130
she hypnotic regress people and they

2477
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:43,099
were report past lives as aliens and

2478
01:50:46,989 --> 01:50:45,760
it's one of the most astonishing things

2479
01:50:50,469 --> 01:50:46,999
yes

2480
01:50:57,870 --> 01:50:50,479
but last question anybody one more one

2481
01:51:20,860 --> 01:51:18,280
the Ariel school it's in bad way it's an

2482
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:20,870
extraordinary case dr. John Mack soundly

2483
01:51:24,730 --> 01:51:22,370
departed dr. John Mack did a brilliant

2484
01:51:26,500 --> 01:51:24,740
research project on that now these kids

2485
01:51:28,510 --> 01:51:26,510
are now adults are in their 20s and 30s

2486
01:51:30,850 --> 01:51:28,520
they've been trapped down by someone

2487
01:51:32,650 --> 01:51:30,860
called Randall Nickerson and it's making

2488
01:51:34,930 --> 01:51:32,660
a new documentary with interviews with

2489
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:34,940
these people you know what they stand by

2490
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:36,070
their story

2491
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:37,970
yeah they these are things that happen

2492
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:39,650
in a little kid they were like age five

2493
01:51:49,450 --> 01:51:44,480
to twelve the Ariel school sightings in

2494
01:51:52,030 --> 01:51:49,460
Zimbabwe in 1994 these little kids and

2495
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:52,040
their adults and they stand by their

2496
01:51:57,550 --> 01:51:54,800
story and so if it's some kind of prank

2497
01:51:59,050 --> 01:51:57,560
they made up why don't they stand by I

2498
01:52:01,180 --> 01:51:59,060
make up pranks when I was a little kid I

2499
01:52:02,770 --> 01:52:01,190
don't pretend they're real now though

2500
01:52:04,530 --> 01:52:02,780
instead no no the kids say it was real

2501
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:04,540
they're adults now and they stay true

2502
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:07,040
it's incredible story really is

2503
01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:10,889
[Music]

2504
01:52:16,589 --> 01:52:14,070
oh yes certainly that that's right the

2505
01:52:18,989 --> 01:52:16,599
Welsh triangle was brought aboard a

2506
01:52:20,399 --> 01:52:18,999
broad haven yes a Pembrokeshire there's

2507
01:52:21,299 --> 01:52:20,409
a lot of symmetries through that case

2508
01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:21,309
there's another one in Australia

2509
01:52:26,399 --> 01:52:23,169
actually in 1966 which also have a lot

2510
01:52:28,049 --> 01:52:26,409
of very strange okay similarities the

2511
01:52:30,869 --> 01:52:28,059
school you know the cross coming down

2512
01:52:32,250 --> 01:52:30,879
very great it's like they do these

2513
01:52:34,859 --> 01:52:32,260
things do repeat themselves like I've

2514
01:52:36,719 --> 01:52:34,869
said tonight it's almost like different

2515
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:36,729
cases coming out the same features very